Bulb went - and blew a hole in itself

vaio

might be odd but all true

an existing installation legally requires no attention/certificates but if you have work done then (in most cases) there is a legal requirement for the work to be certified and your local building control department to be notified.

Google "part P" for more info

Anniemacca

jim_will_fix_it wrote: »

we have a flat that we rent out and have to have a electric safety on the whole electrics in the place, we have MCB`s on our own house wiring and the pop every time a bulb goes, they are meant to, so I dont see a problem with your going if it is a MCB.

So there is some legislation regarding electrical safety when renting a property?

I would have thought there was something.

Cheers

Anniemacca

vaio wrote: »

might be odd but all true

an existing installation legally requires no attention/certificates but if you have work done then (in most cases) there is a legal requirement for the work to be certified and your local building control department to be notified.

Google "part P" for more info

I just thought part P was for bathroom installations?

Anyhow - I think if you are renting you should get a certificate stating that the electrics and gas are safe.

Maybe it is just me and I am being picky about the 2 things that can easily kill you!!

vaio

Nah, part P is quite wide coverage, google is your friend here

As for the safety checks on rented property, as above, gas is compulsory once a year, electric is only recommended every 5 years or on change of tenant

Anniemacca

vaio wrote: »

Nah, part P is quite wide coverage, google is your friend here

As for the safety checks on rented property, as above, gas is compulsory once a year, electric is only recommended every 5 years or on change of tenant

Only just noticed what you said. "electric is only recommended every 5 years or on change of tenant".

So it is only a recommendation and NOT a legal requirement on change of tenant?

That seems utterly ridiculous when you consider most of the red tape in this country. But like the recent channel 4 Dispatches about landlords from hell - the industry seems to be completely unregulated.

vaio

Anniemacca wrote: »

Only just noticed what you said. "electric is only recommended every 5 years or on change of tenant".

So it is only a recommendation and NOT a legal requirement on change of tenant?......

yep

Anniemacca wrote: »

That seems utterly ridiculous when you consider most of the red tape in this country. But like the recent channel 4 Dispatches about landlords from hell - the industry seems to be completely unregulated.

I tend towards the view that "most of the red tape in this country" is the ridiculous bit, successive governments have been adding layer after layer of regulation, most of which do nothing but add costs.

Leif

vaio wrote: »

yep

I tend towards the view that "most of the red tape in this country" is the ridiculous bit, successive governments have been adding layer after layer of regulation, most of which do nothing but add costs.

Some of it is good, such as electrical regulations that restrict what a ham fisted DIY person can do. I know colleagues who have installed new sockets, and done a sound job. Not all do though. But at work we have so much HSE stuff to deal with that it is silly. We've spent hours watching videos, and answering forms, attending meetings and so on. The vast majority is bleedin' obvious and a complete waste of time, but the company has to do it in order to protect itself from law suits. The joke is that it does not work. Last Christmas I drove into work, got out the car, walked to the building and halfway there I fell over and landed on my back. The ground was so slippy I could barely stand up, and I could have seriously injured myself. The building owners had used a mechanical device to clear snow, which resulted in a thin layer of ice on the ground, far more dangerous than the snow. Some people associated with the building management witnessed the incident and showed no concern. Safety requires people to think, not watch inane videos telling you not to leave a bag in the middle of the floor because someone who is walking along reading a document will fall over it.

Anniemacca

Leif wrote: »

Some of it is good, such as electrical regulations that restrict what a ham fisted DIY person can do. I know colleagues who have installed new sockets, and done a sound job. Not all do though. But at work we have so much HSE stuff to deal with that it is silly. We've spent hours watching videos, and answering forms, attending meetings and so on. The vast majority is bleedin' obvious and a complete waste of time, but the company has to do it in order to protect itself from law suits. The joke is that it does not work. Last Christmas I drove into work, got out the car, walked to the building and halfway there I fell over and landed on my back. The ground was so slippy I could barely stand up, and I could have seriously injured myself. The building owners had used a mechanical device to clear snow, which resulted in a thin layer of ice on the ground, far more dangerous than the snow. Some people associated with the building management witnessed the incident and showed no concern. Safety requires people to think, not watch inane videos telling you not to leave a bag in the middle of the floor because someone who is walking along reading a document will fall over it.

Yes most of it, especially in the workplaces is utterly ridiculous. For example, by law no tradesman is allowed to use a ladder over 2 storeys now!

We live in a flat and do get our windows done every few months thanks to the management company. However the job they do is pretty sub standard because they use one of those extension brush things.

It is no where near as good as when the guy used to climb a ladder and wash the windows properly with a squeegee - I know that word looks so wrong!!

vaio

apply common sense to it…..

Three stories plus on a ladder to do windows when the wash pole/clean from the inside/cherry picker options are available is just silly and I'm staggered that anyone would advocate it.

It should be about reasonably minimising risk