When's best to sign-off JSA?

flizzy

I applied to JSA on 27th May and was approved, went to first meeting on 1st June and had first sign-on on 14th June. Received first lot of money in bank account on 17th June. My next sign-on is on 28th June so I'm assuming I'll receive the next lot of money on the 1st July, assuming it's always paid the same amount of days after signing-on. My next sign-on after that is the 12th July but I want to sign-off around that time because my boyfriend (not living together yet) will be starting a new job soon and wants to support me financially. Is it best to sign-off on the same day of my sign-on (i.e. sign on then sign off) to receive the max amount of money, or is there a better time? I'm confused whether the JSA payment you receive is for the two weeks prior to signing-on or for the two weeks after, so can't quite work out what would be best. Any help much appreciated.

allen35

Your JSA payments are paid in arrears, therefore when you sign, money is for the previous 2 weeks.

You don't have to wait to sign on to sign off, you can do it whenever you feel it is right and you will be paid accordingly to what they owe you.

NASA_2

You need to inform them that you are moving in together, if that takes place before he starts work, but you will need to sign-off from the date you no longer meet the conditions of entitlement which will be when you partner starts working 24 hours or more a week.

JSA is paid in arrears. So you will get paid for the period one day after you last signed-on to the day before you sign-off from.

flizzy

NASA wrote: »

You need to inform them that you are moving in together, if that takes place before he starts work, but you will need to sign-off from the date you no longer meet the conditions of entitlement which will be when you partner starts working 24 hours or more a week.

JSA is paid in arrears. So you will get paid for the period one day after you last signed-on to the day before you sign-off from.

We don't have plans to move in together yet, I live with my parents. So he doesn't have anything to do with my claim right now.

I may as well sign-on then on the 12th July in order to receive the money from the previous two weeks? And then sign-off afterwards?

NASA_2

flizzy wrote: »

We don't have plans to move in together yet, I live with my parents. So he doesn't have anything to do with my claim right now.

I may as well sign-on then on the 12th July in order to receive the money from the previous two weeks? And then sign-off afterwards?

Sign-off from whenever you are no longer entitled. To do so before that is stupid. To do so after is fraud.

Muttleythefrog

flizzy wrote: »

I may as well sign-on then on the 12th July in order to receive the money from the previous two weeks? And then sign-off afterwards?

Maybe you're confusing the issues of signing on and getting money... although fortnightly signing on is a necessary requirement to stay on the benefit you will get paid any arrears owed if you pull the plug on the benefit in between signing days.

flizzy

NASA wrote: »

Sign-off from whenever you are no longer entitled. To do so before that is stupid. To do so after is fraud.

Well I could be entitled for a whole two more months as my boyfriend and I won't be moving in together until two or three months time. If he's supporting me financially BEFORE we move in together, it just seems unethical to be claiming JSA, hence why I plan to sign-off.

So, if I sign-on on the 12th July am I right in thinking I will receive two full weeks money for the two weeks prior to the sign date? But if I sign-off before my date I will receive less than two weeks worth?

Muttleythefrog

flizzy wrote: »

So, if I sign-on on the 12th July am I right in thinking I will receive two full weeks money for the two weeks prior to the sign date? But if I sign-off before my date I will receive less than two weeks worth?

Approximately..lol... it's not clear cut because your signing day may not be the end point of a fortnightly payment..lol... I'm not sure the two dates are necessarily linked. When you sign off all that can probably be predicted without extensive calculation is that you'll have arrears of probably up to 2 weeks to be paid to you..lol. I think.

NASA_2

flizzy wrote: »

Well I could be entitled for a whole two more months as my boyfriend and I won't be moving in together until two or three months time. If he's supporting me financially BEFORE we move in together, it just seems unethical to be claiming JSA, hence why I plan to sign-off.

So, if I sign-on on the 12th July am I right in thinking I will receive two full weeks money for the two weeks prior to the sign date? But if I sign-off before my date I will receive less than two weeks worth?

Yes, you get paid to the day before you are signing-off from.

If you are being supported financially before moving in together then you would need to declare that. Although, why would he support you financially if you are still living with your parents?

flizzy

Muttleythefrog wrote: »

Approximately..lol... it's not clear cut because your signing day may not be the end point of a fortnightly payment..lol... I'm not sure the two dates are necessarily linked. When you sign off all that can probably be predicted without extensive calculation is that you'll have arrears of probably up to 2 weeks to be paid to you..lol. I think.

Ok thanks for the help

flizzy

NASA wrote: »

Yes, you get paid to the day before you are signing-off from.

If you are being supported financially before moving in together then you would need to declare that. Although, why would he support you financially if you are still living with your parents?

Ok thanks for your input.

My boyfriend will only start supporting me financially when he starts his new job, which will be in about one month's time (exact date not yet confirmed). His current job doesn't pay very much in comparison, hence why he's not supporting me now and we haven't lived together yet. My parents don't support me financially apart from putting a roof over my head and offering shared food for the family - they don't ask me to pay rent. I have a small amount of savings (already declared to Job Centre) that I use when I need something i.e. train fare, new clothing, social outing with friends. When I say my boyfriend will be supporting me financially in the future, I mean he will first be starting to arrange/pay for a flat for us both to live, and then will be paying for most day to day things once we have moved in together. We will be relocating with this new job of his so I will be looking for work myself in our next location when we have settled.