Fluless Gas Fire

Toddy

Can anyone tell me where I can get a flueless fire from that costs less than £500 and doesn't look like something from the 70's?

B and Q do em but they are 500 notes!!

almond

had the same problem last year, had to give up in the end and put it on
the visa. Try the gas board since the fire cost me £560 but an extra
£180 to fit.

damski_2

if you want a flueless fire that burns "gel", try this link

http://www.fluelessltd.co.uk/p_baskets.html

scoll down and have a look at the limestone fireball................stunning IMO

cheers

Adamski

robowen

damski wrote:

if you want a flueless fire that burns "gel", try this link

http://www.fluelessltd.co.uk/p_baskets.html

scoll down and have a look at the limestone fireball................stunning IMO

cheers

Adamski

Hideous !! lol

Looks like a giant ashtray and someones forgot to put out their ciggie !! lol

shrek101

Try internetfiresdirect.co.uk they do sell flueless fires as I am after a fire from them myself although not flueless.

George_Bray

A gas cooker is, in effect, a sort of flueless fire, I assume.

Does anyone know how it's safe to leave it on for hours on end, cooking the Sunday roast or whatever? Not everyone has an extractor fan running full time? How is it we're not all gassed with carbon monoxide?

robowen

You'll only get carbon monoxide from an appliance that is not burning gas correctly. Fumes from a cooker burning correctly are likely to be carbon dioxide or in the mrs's case ...god knows what !! she can make unknown gassy smells from any dinner !!

As for the flueless fires, you need the correct ventilation to allow them to work properly. You have to read the installation instructions to find out you might need extra ventilation put in.

That large air brick in the lounge is gonna look great !

George_Bray

robowen wrote:

You'll only get carbon monoxide from an appliance that is not burning gas correctly. Fumes from a cooker burning correctly are likely to be carbon dioxide...

Thank you for your input but both cookers and fires have natural gas spraying out of a jet and burning, it seems to me. So why should my 20 year old gas cooker remain 'tuned' for perfect combustion, whilst a gas fire is churning out CO?

I recently placed a CO alert device near my gas cooker and it didn't pick up any CO, I'm pleased to say.

robowen

George_Bray wrote:

So why should my 20 year old gas cooker remain 'tuned' for perfect combustion, whilst a gas fire is churning out CO?
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Gas fires have vents at the front that draw air in....a lot of them do anyway. These vents become blocked with dust and dog hairs(if you got one), they can be prone to block if you have carpets. If you vac whilst the fire is on, the vac doesnt get all the dust ..so some of it get drawn to the fire and blocks up the vents. How many people vac the front of their fires ??

Cookers..typically are all the same. Everything that lands on top gets burnt away. Most people clean their cookers more than they clean their fires. This is not to say we need not worry about cookers, but keep them clean and don't restrict free air flow to them.

Carbon monoxide only occurs when the ratio of air to gas is altered to the appliance (CH4 + 2O2 = CO2 + 2H2O) Methane + oxygen mixed and burnt become (CO2 + 2H2O) which is carbon dioxide and water vapour.

change the input of air :
(CH4 + O2 = CO + 2H2O), this is carbon monoxide and water vapour.

This is why air bricks and air vents are important and why servicing of appliances is even more important.

sorry about the chemistry lesson...or is it maths ?? !!

George_Bray

robowen wrote:

This is why air bricks and air vents are important and why servicing of appliances is even more important...sorry about the chemistry lesson...or is it maths ?? !!

Many thanks. I found your explanation very helpful (I did A' level chemistry!) and I've genuinely learned something, i.e. to keep my gas appliance vents clean.

Regards
George