43000 people forced to move because of benefit cap

mj12_2

ILW wrote: »

You need one to be a driving instrutor or cabbie, why not landlord?

LLs usually hold keys to tenants homes.

And where does it stop?? Maybe sex offenders should be banned from being landlords, that would seem reasonable/proportionate but CRB checking all Landlords??? and whose going to do this CRB check?

What if a disgruntled tenant who had some deposit withheld for causing damages makes a false allegation? Someone who makes a living from their properties could suddenly find themselves ruined and being forced to turn all of their tenants out on their ears because their now banned from being a landlord.... madness.

Renting from a private landlord should be just that, private (as far as is possible, landlords arent councils) there is enough red tape and regulation already in this country, tenants already have an enormous amount of protection under the law if anything needs to happen its better enforcement not more laws.

Ponyo

Cleaver wrote: »

if the tenant wants a two year contract then I think legislation should be in place to ensure the landlord can't sell etc. But surely not as a mandatory thing? Some people only want 6 or 12 months etc.

It`s a powerful bargining tactic for the tenant, if the tenant doesnt mind signing a long contract even as long as 5 yrs sometimes they can ask for a reduction in rent.

Its well worth the Landlord guaranteeing rent with no void times and worry trying to find another tenant.

mj12_2

brit1234 wrote: »

Fraud, money laundering, drug dealing etc.

Many criminals are landlords. They put much of their ill gotten gains into property, especially West London. Hence why all this money laundering rules are now being pushed on estate agents.

I would bet a fair bit of the Russian property buying is linked to money laundering. The best well known situation is that of Chelsea football club.

Many criminals are also many other things - white,black,gay,straight,driving instructors,[insert any job you like] but no one is calling for any of those groups to be regulated, and if they did in some cases they would probably be locked up themselves. Just because some landlords commit crimes doesn't mean that all of them should be saddled with bureacracy, buy to let is barely profitable for a lot of people as it is.

Lets not forget that Landlords are basically just property owners why should they be burdened with regulation and bureacracy because of the bad behaviour of a few, landlord and tenants rights should be balanced, landlords shouldnt be punished for being landlords. Whats next a CRB check to buy a laptop in case you've got previous convictions for computer crime? or how about to buy a Car in case you've been caught speeding?

Cleaver

brit1234 wrote: »

Fraud, money laundering, drug dealing etc.

Many criminals are landlords. They put much of their ill gotten gains into property, especially West London. Hence why all this money laundering rules are now being pushed on estate agents.

Do you have any stats around the percentage of landlords that are criminals compared to other occupations Brit?

Y'know, I have no idea why I'm asking this. As a more important question, can anyone out there give me even a slight clue as to why I'm asking such a question that I, and everyone else, knows that Brit won't have an answer for?

Graham_Devon

Cleaver wrote: »

As a more important question, can anyone out there give me even a slight clue as to why I'm asking such a question that I, and everyone else, knows that Brit won't have an answer for?

Sure.

You fancy a bit of moral high ground.

Cleaver

ILW wrote: »

You need one to be a driving instrutor or cabbie, why not landlord?

CRB checks are generally required for people who work with children or with vulnerable adults. If you checked landlords on the basis that they simply come in to contact with members of the public then you'd need to CRB check practically everyone who is employed in any job.

The need for a CRB for a taxi driver is quite plain, they are trusted to take home single, young, intoxicated women home in the dead of night.

exil

To go back to the original post - everyone here seems to assume that all people claiming HB are unemployed - this is far from being the case, especially in London. The impact of the changes may be on working people doing jobs in Central London that are too low paid to fund either London rents or commuting costs, and are not in social housing.

ILW

Cleaver wrote: »

CRB checks are generally required for people who work with children or with vulnerable adults. If you checked landlords on the basis that they simply come in to contact with members of the public then you'd need to CRB check practically everyone who is employed in any job.

The need for a CRB for a taxi driver is quite plain, they are trusted to take home single, young, intoxicated women home in the dead of night.

A landlord has a right of access to their tenants homes.

Seems odd that you need a license to lend someone money, but not to be their landlord.

diable

ILW wrote: »

A landlord has a right of access to their tenants homes.

Seems odd that you need a license to lend someone money, but not to be their landlord.

Sperm donors don't need a licence either......

ILW

diable wrote: »

Sperm donors don't need a licence either......

Are they given the keys and right of access to other peoples homes?