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Does the tenant have a claim?

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  • atush
    atush Posts: 18,731 Forumite
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    LL is at fault, 3 months is far too long for sorting out the boiler. Soounds like they faffed a bout trying to get it covered under warrenty/ for free. Which is fine if you don't have a tenant paying rent which includes such serivces.
  • Pupnik
    Pupnik Posts: 452 Forumite
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    3 months with no hot water is too much, especially with a child in the flat. I rented a place where the boiler was broken for a week and it was horrendous having to lug the kettle to the bathroom all the time and I ended up burning myself with the hot water- can't imagine having to do that for 3 months!

    It was good of the landlord to offer up the £200 but what percentage of the 3 month rent is this? It doesn't seem like enough to cover 3 months of travelling (£18 for a weekly adult ticket in my region, not sure about the children's price but I believe they pay at 4 yrs so it depends on how old T's child is).
  • mynameisdave
    mynameisdave Posts: 1,284 Forumite
    I would think that given the problem occured in summer and the loss of heating is less of an issue the costs to travel have been covered by the £200.

    The T has accepted the £200 offered already. I wouldn't think it worth going to small claims court. How much more would T expect to get compared to, say, £50 of lodging a claim and travelling to court etc...
  • may_fair wrote: »
    There is no clear answer and I think the maximum T could hope to be awarded is about 25-50% of rent for a 10 week period.
    Would it make any difference I wonder to quantum of likely settlement award if the tenant's name was Madonna? :p

    Clearly the LL has conveniently forgotten what is in the contract and has gone immediately into rather unrealistic self-serving loss mitigation / what I'd do if I was living there mode without a proper thought for the tenant.
  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    If I was the LL I'd consider £200 more than reasonable. I'd expect a small claims court to agree with me and I'd have a new tenant at the earliest opportunity.
    So as a LL you think it acceptable to leave a T with no hot water/heating provision fo 10 weeks and fob your T off with a measly 200 quid? Many Ts stuck with such a LL would look for a new LL at the earliest opportunity and make sure that any potential incoming T was aware of your attitude towards Ts.

    Let's remind ourselves here - s11 (LTA85) requires the LL

    "to keep in repair and proper working order the installations in the dwelling-house for space heating and heating water."
    My bolding

    It doesn't say that a LL can dodge those responsibilities because they are having a protracted dispute with the manufacturer of the boiler, whilst leaving the T with just their kitchen kettle and a lack of appropriate recompense. It does not say that the provision of a working heating system is limited to the winter months only. Note that the T had been ill and has a child.

    LL's issues with the provider of the boiler is the LL's problem - he is still has to meet his repairing obligations and it is not "reasonable" IMO for a T to be without HW and CH for 10 weeks. It's a very basic amenity.

    The LL should, as others have said, provided alternative means whilst seeing an early resolve to the boiler issue. Electric/gas water boilers can be hired by the day/week as can effective heaters.
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