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Graduates expect to earn more than they do....

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  • melancholly
    melancholly Posts: 7,457 Forumite
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    Reactive wrote: »
    [FONT=&quot]Do you have a university degree? If so, is it in psychology?[/FONT]
    yes and no!
    :happyhear
  • gadgetmind
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    well, a 'good' psychology graduate should have skills that are very employable

    Maybe, but we want skills relevant to our industry, and psychology isn't such a skill, no-where near.

    Equally well, I wouldn't expect someone with a degree in Chemical Engineering, Computer Science, or Mathematics, to be able to get a job in one of those roles that a degree in psychology gives you the specialist skills for.
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

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  • gadgetmind
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    Reactive wrote: »
    English is not my native language. :j I'm Swiss German. Thanks for pointing my mistake out! How should I have said it?

    With the verb at the end of the sentence, of course! :-)
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

    Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
  • atypical
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    edited 27 June 2011 at 9:45PM
    antrobus wrote: »
    I suspect that the statistics for Medicine might show the prospects for students who have completed their six years worth of training and are now fully fledged doctors.
    It seems they're using the wrong figure for medicine. Medics straight out of uni go into an FY1 position and earn £22,412. They're still doctors at this point. The figure used on the website seems to be a registrar's wage i.e. 2 years after graduation.

    I thought community pharmacy is quite well paid. After a training year on roughly ~£18k, the typical starting salary is ~£35k as a rotating branch pharmacist. There's still a shortage of pharmacists so finding a job isn't much of an issue.
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    antrobus wrote: »
    For other professions, law and accountancy for example, graduating with a three year undergraduate degree means that you're only at about half way through the process, and the remainder of the process is conducted outside the university sector.

    Law, unlike Medicine, isn't a vocational degree; only a small minority of Law graduates go into this vocational area.
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    Reactive wrote: »
    English is not my native language. :j I'm Swiss German. Thanks for pointing my mistake out! How should I have said it?

    In that case, your English is obviously very good and I apologise.

    Unfortunately, the mistake I commented on was the sort of mistake that a really uneducated English speaker would have made.

    You should have said, " Otherwise I simply wouldn't have gone to university..."
  • Xeorix
    Xeorix Posts: 385 Forumite
    I think theres a difference between what Graduate jobs are defined as.

    While in my final year I applied for hundreds of Graduate Schemes like those found on MilkRound, went to numerous assessment centres etc. After not much luck, I applied for a Graduate Job as a web designer on a starting salary of £16k. 2 months into the job, I was offered a job on a Graduate Scheme with a starting salary of £23k with the possibility to earn up to around £29k after the 18months.

    My role includes the Graduate Training courses for business skills, soft skills etc, however I am also getting put through my Microsoft training which I think is worth a lot more (I believe each course is around £2-3k)

    I count myself very lucky to have landed this job, however I think its important to be realistic in expecting what salary you get. A Graduate Job will probably land you around £16k, whereas a Graduate Scheme will land you around £25k.
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  • gadgetmind
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    Xeorix wrote: »
    I was offered a job on a Graduate Scheme with a starting salary of £23k with the possibility to earn up to around £29k after the 18months.

    I keep an eye on what other companies offer, and that seems to be on the low side, or maybe I need to look around again. We typically offer £24-£25k to grads, and have a rapid escalator for the first two years, and still lose a few people because they get higher offers.
    I am also getting put through my Microsoft training which I think is worth a lot more (I believe each course is around £2-3k)

    We do that for IT peeps (as opposed to engineers) but we don't usually require degree-level qualifications for these roles.
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

    Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
  • melancholly
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    gadgetmind wrote: »
    Maybe, but we want skills relevant to our industry, and psychology isn't such a skill, no-where near.

    Equally well, I wouldn't expect someone with a degree in Chemical Engineering, Computer Science, or Mathematics, to be able to get a job in one of those roles that a degree in psychology gives you the specialist skills for.
    sorry - misunderstood your post as implying that psychology wasn't a good enough degree subject to consider, rather than it just wasn't remotely relevant for your area!
    :happyhear
  • gadgetmind
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    sorry - misunderstood your post as implying that psychology wasn't a good enough degree subject to consider, rather than it just wasn't remotely relevant for your area!

    I have dabbled a little with psychology as part of my writing, and while it's rather too soft a science for my liking, I have found doing Myers-Briggs Personality Type "analyses" for my characters has helped to give them a few extra dimensions.

    Regards taking a degree in it, I just don't really understand spending years learning things that aren't relevant to the field in which you intend working.

    I always knew exactly what I wanted to do and started a company doesn't exactly this during my final year at university.

    Perhaps I'm just strange. :)
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

    Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
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