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When should I hand in my notice?

Afternoon Guys,

I have a question that isn't quite as straight forward as I would have liked, so here are some facts about the situation ~
  • I currently work in a High School as support staff
  • I work Term time only (39 weeks per year)
  • I started in September 2008
  • I get paid my 44 weeks wages in equal parts over 12 months (44 weeks for 39 weeks work and 5 weeks paid holiday)
  • I have applied for a new job that is not term time only for a completely differrent organisation so would be working all year
  • There are 5 weeks left 'til the end of term
  • If I was lucky enough to be offered the new job I want to know when I should hand in my notice?
If I hand in my notice straight away and get to the end of term, I could start the new job the following week. However, this would meen that I had done a full years work (39 weeks) but only had 11 months pay. Hope you're keeping up?

I would like to hand in my notice 2 weeks into the 6 week summer holidays, in order to give 4 weeks notice and therefor be paid up to the end of August.

I am concerned that it is "illegal"?? to still work for the school as I wont have handed in my notice, but have started work for the new company. The new job states that they would like someone to start ASAP, so I don't think they would want me to wait to hand in my notice.

I'll stop there as it's alot to take in but can clarify any points if anyone is kind enough to reply.

Many thanks for reading anyway

Frogga
Say it once, say it loud ~ I'm an Atheist, Anti-Royalist, Socialist, Tea-Total Veggie Frog and PROUD!:D

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  • Sambucus_Nigra
    Sambucus_Nigra Posts: 8,669 Forumite
    I've worked for 2 companies at the same time, taking leave in the last week as they didn't want to pay and starting the next job on the monday so effectively working for another company on a day's leave from the first; nothing illegal about it [think of how people have 2 jobs].
    If you haven't got it - please don't flaunt it. TIA.
  • frogga
    frogga Posts: 2,224 Forumite
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    Ah yes, hadn't thought of it like that, thankyou x

    Did you only do it for a week though? I would be employed by them both for the whole 6 weeks of the holiday? I think I feel "naughty" if I didn't tell them but I don't want to lose my already earned money?

    Thankyou for replying x
    Say it once, say it loud ~ I'm an Atheist, Anti-Royalist, Socialist, Tea-Total Veggie Frog and PROUD!:D

  • SarEl
    SarEl Posts: 5,683 Forumite
    There is nothing "illegal" per se about what you suggest. But That does not mean you can do it. You need to check your terms of employment to make sure that there is nothing in there that might cause problems. If you are still in employment then the current employer may, if they just find out, get shirty. We recently had someone with the same type of contract being made redundant whose employer expected them to turn up during the notice period even though it was not term time. I cannot see any reason why you cannot just ask - if, as you say, you have completed your contracted hours then there should be no problem, but it is better to be sure than sorry.
  • hcb42
    hcb42 Posts: 5,962 Forumite
    does your contract not cover this eventuality? it must happen all the time
  • frogga
    frogga Posts: 2,224 Forumite
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    Thankyou both x

    I have looked in my old contract and there is no mention of this? Things are very difficult at the school atm as we were turned into an academy in April and are now not run by the local authority. We have not as yet had any new contract. I'm scared to ask anyone anything as if you make waves you are made to feel very uncomfortable?
    Say it once, say it loud ~ I'm an Atheist, Anti-Royalist, Socialist, Tea-Total Veggie Frog and PROUD!:D

  • Sambucus_Nigra
    Sambucus_Nigra Posts: 8,669 Forumite
    frogga wrote: »
    Thankyou both x

    I have looked in my old contract and there is no mention of this? Things are very difficult at the school atm as we were turned into an academy in April and are now not run by the local authority. We have not as yet had any new contract. I'm scared to ask anyone anything as if you make waves you are made to feel very uncomfortable?

    Does your contract say you can't work during the summer?
    If you haven't got it - please don't flaunt it. TIA.
  • When I left my term time only job, there was an adjustment for the term time only pay / owed holiday in my last pay packet. LEA HR are very used to this and you shouldn't lose out - I got more than I expected!
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    It should not matter what the contract says you have worked the hours/weeks so the holiday pay is due when you leave as it has allready accrued.

    When does the holiday years start/end I hough for term time it was always the Sept dates.
  • frogga
    frogga Posts: 2,224 Forumite
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    Thankyou all for your replies x

    I haven't got a new contract yet as we were only taken over by a Sweedish company to be run as an academy in April of this year. I am worried that they will say I've only worked for them since April so haven't donea a "full year" IYKWIM?

    The personnel manager is really nice so I might ask her tomorrow in confidence :)
    Say it once, say it loud ~ I'm an Atheist, Anti-Royalist, Socialist, Tea-Total Veggie Frog and PROUD!:D

  • Sambucus_Nigra
    Sambucus_Nigra Posts: 8,669 Forumite
    frogga wrote: »
    Thankyou all for your replies x

    I haven't got a new contract yet as we were only taken over by a Sweedish company to be run as an academy in April of this year. I am worried that they will say I've only worked for them since April so haven't donea a "full year" IYKWIM?

    The personnel manager is really nice so I might ask her tomorrow in confidence :)

    A - if it doesn't say that you CAN'T work during the summer hols then take it that you can. If it was an issue it would have been written into the contract.

    B - Nothing that you say to the personnel manager is in confidence....they work for the company not for you.

    If you do, you might bring attention to the issue. And as such, scupper your plans.
    If you haven't got it - please don't flaunt it. TIA.
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