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Who pays for smashed window after buglary, landlord or tenant?

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  • bella4uk
    bella4uk Posts: 1,644 Forumite
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    Are windows classed as fixtures and fittings?
  • It's down to him and you can report him for not doing any repairs that will affect your health etc, stress from the robbery is absolutely horriffic i know I had it once and don't want it again,i even installed cctv now front and back,
    with notices up stating that,
  • If your tenancy agreement is so lacking in detail and badly drafted, then it's anybody's guess whether in your case, "fixtures & fittings" includes glass...

    The norm in most agreements I have seen is that private tenants are responsible for glass.

    Damage by burglary is not fair wear and tear.

    The gas /electric check is something quite different - this is a legal requirement for landlords so it matters not that the company did not turn up, it is the landlord's responsibility to ensure they have the necessary checks done and certificates in place. If something were to happen, then the landlord would potentially be facing criminal charges for ommission. Also the checkss must be done by qualified contractors, not just any old handyman. You might want to speak to your local council about this.

    Do you have countents insurance? If so, I would contact them about your glass.
  • bella4uk
    bella4uk Posts: 1,644 Forumite
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    Yes if say one of the kids accidentally smashed the glass with a ball etc, I would expect to pay for it, although 50% of the windows have either cracks or gaping holes. I think I might go round and take some pictures. It is an old victorian house with original flimsy glass.
    The landord bought this house and it was in a terrible state and i was in need of a new home, he gave me a date to move in and said he would double glaze fairly soon after moving in and it would all be decorated. The day I moved in it was like a building site and subsequently the bare minimum has been done, the decoration was a shambles and in the end have paid people to do this, although it is such a big house some of the kids rooms will have to wait. I think the promised double glazing and shower are never going to happen.
    Are there people at my local town hall who could help with enquiries.....sorry for my ignorance but I just don't know who to contact.
  • Fitzy29
    Fitzy29 Posts: 107 Forumite
    If you don't like the house, 'MOVE' ,it's your choice to live there...stop moaning!
  • lewt
    lewt Posts: 9,158 Forumite
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    helpfull fitzy, nice1. take your own advice dont read the thread and if you aint got anything nice to say dont say anything. its noyt choice if their in a contract is it?

    if you have to pay for contents insurance and he has to pay buliding insurance. Why not get a double glazed window and you buy the inside and he can get the frame and out side pain.:D :D:D:D:D:D:D
    If i upset you don't stress, never forget that god aint finished with me yet.
  • Fitzy29
    Fitzy29 Posts: 107 Forumite
    Had to read your post three times to understand it!

    Anyhow, what I meant is far too many tennants expect their landlord to cop for everything, including everyday mishaps. I really do thing some tennats would let their landlord pop round once a week to clean the house if they could get away with it.

    Everything needs a balance.
  • prudryden
    prudryden Posts: 2,075 Forumite
    Refitting a pane of glass and applying new putty in a sash window is not very expensive and would probably be less than the excess on your contents insurance and the landlord's building insurance. So the insurance coverage is a mute point.
    Who is responsible for the glass repair is a gray area. Generally, it would be the tenant, but it makes sense for the landlord to take care of it as it is a very minor repair and takes less than an hour.
    Finding a glass shop on a weekend that will drop all their other orders may be difficult which would explain the delay. And then you have to have someone come out (like the handy man) to measure before ordering.
    FREEDOM IS NOT FREE
  • bella4uk
    bella4uk Posts: 1,644 Forumite
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    Fitzy29 wrote:
    If you don't like the house, 'MOVE' ,it's your choice to live there...stop moaning!
    A widowed single parent with 6 kids....yeah I'll just move, no problem tomorrow....idiot!!!!!!!
  • I would recommend for anyone in a tenancy where the landlord is, shall we shall, failing in basics such as gas safety to take digital photos of all the disrepairs (try and have the date mode turned on with the camera). Also make sure you put serious problems in writing. God forbid but we all suffered headaches for ages and then started smelling faint gas - as it was there was an old pipe link in our hall and the landlady had never bothered with the annual gas certificate.

    We've always tried to compromise - we offer to do small repairs ourselves as long as she refunds the receipts for the materials - she saves big time on the cost of calling someone out for a 5 minute job and we retain the privacy of our home and know a owboy job hasn't been done. Plus good tenants are a bonus, landlords like to keep them.
    Integrity is a dying art!:p
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