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Govt expect me to work for £1 per hour!

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  • wantsajob
    wantsajob Posts: 705 Forumite
    edited 18 June 2011 at 5:54PM
    The only thing I can see that would make this difficult is if you had travel expenses and these weren't met, as merely getting to a job is a big expense nowadays.

    These schemes are disgusting really though, as employers abuse them as a means for cheap/free employees - when there is no prospect of a job being offered at the end - all under the guise of being for the benefit of the person doing the work for nothing. Yes there is some benefit I agree, but if a company wants employees - they should have to pay for them and take them on rather than have a constant treadmill of free labour at their doorstep provided by the Job Centre.
    DCFC79 wrote: »
    Surely the OP should be setting an example for the children and get off jsa asap
    By working for £naff all. Great example. Teach the children all they're going to expect all their life is a load of crap from the Job Centre, and no wage whatsoever - despite minimum wage legislation.
    Wanted a job, now have one. :beer:
  • DCFC79
    DCFC79 Posts: 40,644 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    wantsajob wrote: »
    The only thing I can see that would make this difficult is if you had travel expenses and these weren't met, as merely getting to a job is a big expense nowadays.

    These schemes are disgusting really though, as employers abuse them as a means for cheap/free employees - when there is no prospect of a job being offered at the end - all under the guise of being for the benefit of the person doing the work for nothing. Yes there is some benefit I agree, but if a company wants employees - they should have to pay for them and take them on rather than have a constant treadmill of free labour at their doorstep provided by the Job Centre.


    By working for £naff all. Great example. Teach the children all they're going to expect all their life is a load of crap from the Job Centre, and no wage whatsoever - despite minimum wage legislation.

    i never said work for naff all as per the title, get a job on his own merit
  • Gemmy_2
    Gemmy_2 Posts: 383 Forumite
    relic wrote: »
    Why do you think you should have "money in the pot" leftover, when only one of you works 12 hours a week..?

    You get HB, CTB, CTC, CB yet seem to think you are hard done by, interesting.


    We both work full time and we have no money in the pot either...funny that.
  • wantsajob
    wantsajob Posts: 705 Forumite
    edited 18 June 2011 at 6:31PM
    DCFC79 wrote: »
    i never said work for naff all as per the title, get a job on his own merit
    If only it were that easy. Chances are that if nothing has come up in a year, that doing 30 hours = £30 benefits probably won't help in any other way than £30 is better than £0.
    Gemmy wrote: »
    We both work full time and we have no money in the pot either...funny that.
    But you probably buy more nice things, have a nicer house, car, etc than OP does, which is what leaves your pot empty. Funny how people get more money, spend it, enjoy what they get out of it, and feel hard-done-by when there's no money left.
    Wanted a job, now have one. :beer:
  • DCFC79
    DCFC79 Posts: 40,644 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    wantsajob wrote: »
    If only it were that easy. Chances are that if nothing has come up in a year, that doing 30 hours = £30 benefits probably won't help in any other way than £30 is better than £0.

    can only try to find 1,
  • LisaB85
    LisaB85 Posts: 2,008 Forumite
    What would you like to retrain as? Many colleges and external providers provide free part time courses in functional skills etc if you are unemployed.

    As for working for your benefit, it will get you out of the house, get you back into a work routine, and give you experience that you can put on your CV as well as many other advantages. Lots of JSA claimants do voluntary work off their own backs too.
  • Gemmy_2
    Gemmy_2 Posts: 383 Forumite
    wantsajob wrote: »
    If only it were that easy. Chances are that if nothing has come up in a year, that doing 30 hours = £30 benefits probably won't help in any other way than £30 is better than £0.


    But you probably buy more nice things, have a nicer house, car, etc than OP does, which is what leaves your pot empty. Funny how people get more money, spend it, enjoy what they get out of it, and feel hard-done-by when there's no money left.


    I live in a rented property, have a 7 year old car on the drive, rarely go out and enjoy ourselves. Infact our fun every now and then is going to the local bowling alley and playing a couple of 50p games of pool. We make all our food from scratch... hmm can't say i'm feeling hard done by because i spend my money on luxury's. My money goes on fuel/insurance/rent/council tax/food/gas/electric/water etc.
  • mitch161
    mitch161 Posts: 271 Forumite
    edited 20 June 2011 at 1:43PM
    there are 168 hours in a week. with 2 parents that means the kids have a total potential supervision of 336 hours... your GF only works 12 hours so lets make that 324 hours of supervision..

    thats the complex way of explaining this.
    you say you cant work because you have to look after the kids,
    does your GF work 2 shifts of 6 hours? are they morning or afternoon shifts??

    if morning shifts that leaves you free to work in afternoons as GF is home in the afternoon (and same other way round) and for just 2 days, that leaves you with 5 whole days where the kids are supervised by your GF.

    you say you cant do work or anything but strangely have free time to want to be retrained.............

    use all of this free time to do some voluntary work in a sector that will improve your CV in a area that will be your future career sector.

    EG if you want retail. work in a charity shop. if your into finance work as a charity accountant. if childcare work with playgroups and childrens charities.

    a few people work voluntarily and treat it as a unofficial work trial. they do it with passion and show off they can do it and then some charities have been known to take on skilled volunteers as employees. yes even in charities they have employees.

    i too am unemployed. i only get housing benefit and JSA yet i can get the bills paid and food in belly.

    child tax, and all the other benefits for kids would definetly cover costs for kids food and clothing.

    £20 a week for each kid.. a bag of potatos meat and some own branded baked beans /peas can feed a kid for under £1 a day. school clothes are cheap asda george and many websites sell shirts for under £3 each and shirt replacements are not a weekly thing, more like a 3month-yearly thing. so its not that expensive.

    benefits are not meant to pay for a lifestyle its meant to be to pay for a roof over head and food in belly. tell the kids you not gonna top up their mobile phones and your disconnecting sky so they have to put up with watching TMF on free-view instead of MTV.

    yes its tough. yes i had same mindset as you. but just sitting there typing out the excuses is not really good. you should have a spreadsheet open and typing out solutions.

    voluntary work is another form of free training. if you have a car. become a driving instructor, taxi driver. they are also getting new people on.

    pizze deliverys in the evening. theres loads of options. i have had all your reasons not to work, and ontop of that i have health issues.. and yet i have overcome them.

    voluntary work should be your first port of call. you can specifiy when you want to work even if its 1 day a week in the afternoon your GF is not working. its something atleast and if JSA mention the 30 hour thing. tell them ur doing voluntarty work and they will deduct the voluntary hours out if it. slowly increase the voluntary hours so they fit around your family life and soon you will be doing 30 hours.

    charities as mentioned will train you to do their tasks. so again choose a sector that meets your needs.

    goodluck
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