How much would you pay for this invite?

Idiophreak

globetraveller wrote: »

:eek:just read the other thread. I thought the posted was thinking of buying them for her own wedding.
So the bride is going to pay £3.50 each for 80 invites?:eek::eek:

Bit torn on this...on the one hand, £3.50 seems crazy, to me...

OP claims there are costs of £1.60 in each one, which I just can't see for a couple of sheets of card, 6 inches of ribbon, a dab of glue and some decorative hearts. More like 20p?

She also claim they'll take half hour each to make. Personally, if I sat down at 9am to do them, and made 80 at a time, I'd feel pretty disappointed if I wasn't done and dusted by 5. If it takes 8 hours to make them, that's 6 minutes per invite. Pay yourself, what? £10/hour...That means you add £1 on to the cost of each invite...So that pushes the things up to £1.20...maybe there's a little bit extra for postage, ink, design etc...but still nowhere near the £3.50 mark...

That said, I know people who've spent more than that for less complicated designs, so maybe it is "the going rate".

I wonder if the wedding board is more in touch with the customer base than the crafting board, though

Tiara_2

I agree nykied. I hadn't realised it was a custom design that had been specifically requested. This clearly bumps up the price as it is a very intricate design that would have taken a long time to get perfect. The other post also lists the materials used, and they are all very high quality which adds to the cost.

Generally it is very hard to make a profit making and selling homemade cards. I make them myself to give to friends and family for Birthdays etc, and usually spend 1-2 hours making a special, unique card. I actually did some family Christmas cards in a similar design to the op's, and it took me chuffing hours on each card to get them perfect. There is no way I could do them to sell as I wouldn't earn a decent hourly wage after all the costs of the materials had been taken into consideration, as they are very time consuming.

Some of the comments are rather rude in this thread. If the card is not to your taste then fine, but there is no need to be rude about it!

nykied wrote: »

That's very harsh and untrue actually. She posted on the other forum before she posted on this one, so this was to confirm (or otherwise) what she'd been told on there.

I'm not really surprised that she's not come back, after some of the comments on this thread. The bride had actually requested that particular invitation after receiving one like it, just to clarify.

Tiara_2

There is no way in the world you could make that card for 20p!!
The pearl heart embellishments alone would be at least 50p if not more (I've seen them for £1 for a pack of 6 in my local craft shop!), and mulberry paper is also really expensive and the price includes making an envelope from that as well. You must have some awesomely cheap craft stores near you to be able to get all that for 20p!

Having made cards myself, I can see this would easily take 30 minutes to do. The folds have to be really accurate as otherwise the finished card would be wonky, and there is clearly a lot of time and effort involved. I honestly don't think that could be done in 6 minutes per card.

I think many of the people on the crafting board will have made cards themselves and have a better idea of the costs and time involved in making something so intricate. The cost needs to cover the amount of time it has taken to create the template as well.

To be fair, on this board many of us have got freebie invites from Vistaprint, so anything looks very expensive and overpriced compared to that!

Idiophreak wrote: »

Bit torn on this...on the one hand, £3.50 seems crazy, to me...

OP claims there are costs of £1.60 in each one, which I just can't see for a couple of sheets of card, 6 inches of ribbon, a dab of glue and some decorative hearts. More like 20p?

She also claim they'll take half hour each to make. Personally, if I sat down at 9am to do them, and made 80 at a time, I'd feel pretty disappointed if I wasn't done and dusted by 5. If it takes 8 hours to make them, that's 6 minutes per invite. Pay yourself, what? £10/hour...That means you add £1 on to the cost of each invite...So that pushes the things up to £1.20...maybe there's a little bit extra for postage, ink, design etc...but still nowhere near the £3.50 mark...

That said, I know people who've spent more than that for less complicated designs, so maybe it is "the going rate".

I wonder if the wedding board is more in touch with the customer base than the crafting board, though

Idiophreak

Tiara wrote: »

There is no way in the world you could make that card for 20p!!
The pearl heart embellishments alone would be at least 50p if not more (I've seen them for £1 for a pack of 6 in my local craft shop!), and mulberry paper is also really expensive and the price includes making an envelope from that as well. You must have some awesomely cheap craft stores near you to be able to get all that for 20p!

Having made cards myself, I can see this would easily take 30 minutes to do. The folds have to be really accurate as otherwise the finished card would be wonky, and there is clearly a lot of time and effort involved. I honestly don't think that could be done in 6 minutes per card.

I think many of the people on the crafting board will have made cards themselves and have a better idea of the costs and time involved in making something so intricate. The cost needs to cover the amount of time it has taken to create the template as well.

To be fair, on this board many of us have got freebie invites from Vistaprint, so anything looks very expensive and overpriced compared to that!

Trouble is, I'm not a crafter, so I can only call it as I see it - how I'd feel paying that much for the card, and what I'd think if I received it.

I made our invites / orders of service using perfectly nice card, it was textured, a nice weight etc - and I think it would easily hold the design in the OP. It cost £12/500 sheets.

I'm amazed the little hearts cost as much as you say - perhaps the photos don't do them justice, but I've seen similar thing on ebay around £3 for 100 inc delivery. 3p each - so I guess that's 18p in total, thinking about it.

I agree that if I wanted to sit and make a single one of these, it would probably take me half hour...but if you were making 80, you'd get economies of scale. Printing 80 sheets will take more or less the same time as printing 1 (as you can be folding the first, or whatever, whilst the others print). When folding one, I'd do it my hand, if doing 80, I'd make a jig to make sure all of the folds were perfect every time...I'd guillotine several of the things at a time...etc etc. OP's not making these for fun, it's a business..she needs to knock them out in the quickest possible time - or at least price them as though she was...

RainbowDrops

Folding takes a LONG time, as I learnt on sunday.
I was folding simple orders of ceremony (A4 card folded in half) x 150
and small place name cards (which was REALLY fiddly)x 150
Plus about 2 menus
and that took me 4-5hours!

sammy_wheeler

im sticking by my comments tbh!

Idiophreak

RainbowDrops wrote: »

Folding takes a LONG time, as I learnt on sunday.
I was folding simple orders of ceremony (A4 card folded in half) x 150
and small place name cards (which was REALLY fiddly)x 150
Plus about 2 menus
and that took me 4-5hours!

It takes a while, agreed!

We folded our orders of service (120, 3 sheets of card each) and assembled them all in two hours between two of us...that's about 40 seconds for 3 folds and the assembly.

Each of the invites in OP has 9 folds. So at the same pace, that would be 2 minutes per invite. As I said before, though, if I had 80 of these things to do, with angles, for a business, I'd certainly be making/buying jigs/tools to make life easier. If nothing else, I'd arrange them on paper in such a way that you could fold three invitations every time you fold the paper - then cut them out after. Applying a little thought to the situation will cut down heaps on the time taken.

Speaking of cutting, my invites taught me that cutting can take a good while, too...but with practice (and good lighting) you can start whizzing through it after a while.

The other tasks, tying on the ribbon, sticking on the hearts, really shouldn't take very long...so cutting and folding would be the worst of it, I think...

Of course, the invite is small, and fiddly to handle and stuff...and then there's the envelope and yada yada, but I still think, if you're looking to maximise profits on these things, it's got to be closer to 10/hour than 2/hour to knock these things out in bulk. If I was paying someone to do it, I'd expect that they (being "professional", presumably) would be able to do it faster than I (a "numpty") could do them, anyway...

shellsuit

I wouldn't pay anything as I don't like it I'm afraid.

If it was a design I wanted, I wouldn't pay more than £1 per invite.

How big are they though, they look very small and to me don't even look like they would fit any details on the card apart from the bride and grooms name?

PootleFlump_3

warehouse wrote: »

Apologies O.P. but they're horrific. What are you thinking?

'Apologies' Warehouse but thats just plain rude!!!!!
There is no need to be so nasty no matter what you think of them.

sammy_wheeler

i wonder if the bride is aware of how many details she needs on them? maybe its a case of being naive?- she needs to get on this forum really!

£3.50 times 80 is £280! wow!