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  • tempested
    tempested Posts: 65 Forumite
    cit_k wrote: »
    Many atos reports belong in the fiction section of a library.

    Don't be so generalising!

    We only mainly hear on this and other sites about those that are unhappy about their report. What about the many that ARE happy with their reports?
  • tempested
    tempested Posts: 65 Forumite
    Hello tempsted You say 'Many claimants are being refused DLA, even though they are taking Tramadol AND Morphine' May I just ask what you evidence are basing this on? Many thanks.

    I would suggest that you search this site for that information!

    There are many reported instances of claimants that are taking that level of medication, yet have failed to be awarded any DLA.

    I researched it myself a while ago, before I joined this site to see what others were finding problems with. I found very similar cases with similar results as mine.

    So, start searching all 'DLA' threads - there is a mountain of information.
  • cit_k
    cit_k Posts: 24,812 Forumite
    tempested wrote: »
    Don't be so generalising!

    We only mainly hear on this and other sites about those that are unhappy about their report. What about the many that ARE happy with their reports?

    I have never yet heard of a single case where someone has read an atos report prepared about them and they were happy with the contents.

    I have read cases where people were granted esa, but were still unhappy with the content of the report.

    Most people dont read the report unless they fail though.

    However, expect the CAB to publish research on just this point at some point in the future, as they were investigating this area - the quality of reports etc and telling volunteers to ask for a copy of the report pass or fail.

    Safe bet the findings will show even those who pass, most are unhappy with the report.


    Plus I have NEVER seen any evidence from ANY where that praises the quality and reliability of an atos report.

    It is ALWAYS about how unreliable and terrible they are.
    [greenhighlight]but it matters when the most senior politician in the land is happy to use language and examples that are simply not true.
    [/greenhighlight][redtitle]
    The impact of this is to stigmatise people on benefits,
    and we should be deeply worried about that
    [/redtitle](house of lords debate, talking about Cameron)
  • Brassedoff
    Brassedoff Posts: 1,217 Forumite
    tempested wrote: »
    Of course accidents happen. It's how you deal with the aftermath of them!

    I have been in a major collision in my car in the past. I was off work for 4 months. I worked from home whilst recovering.
    It didn't cross my mind to claim a sickness/disability benefit because of it. Not everyone does.
    I worked 80 + hours a week, famously in the family feel asleep in to my dinner at gone 11pm! I had a horrid view of malingerers. I had such a right wing view. All my money went into savings, a house etc, but you live within your means. Earn £7K a month and live at £7k a month. It grinds to a halt with an accident. There are levels of accidents, or does every accident allow you to work from home? Does every job allow you to work from home? Can a check out operator take their work home? No!


    No they don't . Neither did I, but when everything you have worked for in life is under threat, you've sold your Jewelery, you sold the nice extras, kids pS3, then no new clothes for you, but more importantly your teenage kids and got repossession letters from your mortgage company and you are told you have more ops, 2-3 inpatient visits to hospital a week and a cocktail of drugs you need to take, but cannot afford. You swollow your pride and claim.

    The Victorians died out 100 years ago, if you ate not happy with people being able to claim to survive on the breadline, I suggest you stop reading forums and the daily mail and hope you suffer no disability, ever!

    Rant over, but I pees me off. Due to the drugs and injury I cannot walk, cannot sit too long, cannot lift, move up and downstairs. I will not lower myself to run through my hygiene needs.

    And your posts are a bid tender as I am laying in a hospital having suffered a minor stroke. Not bad, 41 yrs and on the scrap heap.
  • Jahlove
    Jahlove Posts: 78 Forumite
    edited 13 June 2011 at 4:34PM
    tempested wrote: »
    Thank you.

    What you seem to be forgetting is that the ATOS assessment is considered to carry more weight than evidence that you provide. In all of this, they are the only one that has prepared a report into your work/life abilities relevant to 'disability medicine'. Your reports are purely of a clinical nature.

    As for not appealing against the ATOS assessment, you have accepted by default that the ATOS report IS correct!
    Even if you had 55 points, you should have contacted the DWP to challenge the report that was prepared on you.

    I did not see my esa atos report until it was used against me 12 months later i was placed in the work related group so thought i had passed and the report was accurate however when i applied for dla 12 months later the report was used against me and it was only then i discovered how bad it was! it was then way to late to appeal so how can you say somebody has accepted the report is right when they have never seen it?

    also they are only considerd to carry more weight by the dwp the tribunals are well aware of what atos get up to and are not so biasd
  • JoxJox_2
    JoxJox_2 Posts: 13 Forumite
    tempested wrote: »
    Thank you.

    What you seem to be forgetting is that the ATOS assessment is considered to carry more weight than evidence that you provide. In all of this, they are the only one that has prepared a report into your work/life abilities relevant to 'disability medicine'. Your reports are purely of a clinical nature.

    As for not appealing against the ATOS assessment, you have accepted by default that the ATOS report IS correct!
    Even if you had 55 points, you should have contacted the DWP to challenge the report that was prepared on you.

    What you seem to be forgetting is that my new evidence clearly shows a deterioration in my health SINCE the atos report which is the point im trying to make.
  • Juding by previous posts temptested is clearly and anti benefit troll that gives no helpful advice what so ever.
  • mouseymousey99
    mouseymousey99 Posts: 1,868 Forumite
    Trouble is posts as tempest's are worrying & upsetting to people in this position. When you aren't feeling well (and if you are taking Morphine etc you really aren't) this sort of unsupported speculation is the last thing you need. I did wonder if he/she had anything to back this up but from the reply I received I think its someone with an axe to grind.
  • sunnyone
    sunnyone Posts: 4,716 Forumite
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    Trouble is posts as tempest's are worrying & upsetting to people in this position. When you aren't feeling well (and if you are taking Morphine etc you really aren't) this sort of unsupported speculation is the last thing you need. I did wonder if he/she had anything to back this up but from the reply I received I think its someone with an axe to grind.

    he is a troll andyandflo and all of his banned AE's but he he is right, today tramadol is nowt and its given out like smarties and morphine isnt much better, people under pain clinics for severe pain are not on these but other meds and now that DLA is been looked at the way it was meant to be everyday pain meds wont be enough to prove you are in pain to gain an award.

    In days gone by OTC meds could prove you had pain but it should never have been and now claiming to be in so much pain you cant walk while taking cocodamol for pain (which is even less powerful than smarities) wont support your claim and thats right.
  • cit_k
    cit_k Posts: 24,812 Forumite
    tempested wrote: »
    Thank you.

    What you seem to be forgetting is that the ATOS assessment is considered to carry more weight than evidence that you provide. In all of this, they are the only one that has prepared a report into your work/life abilities relevant to 'disability medicine'. Your reports are purely of a clinical nature.

    As for not appealing against the ATOS assessment, you have accepted by default that the ATOS report IS correct!
    Even if you had 55 points, you should have contacted the DWP to challenge the report that was prepared on you.

    ATOS reports are not meant to carry more weight than any other evidence, thats in theory, in practice they often do.

    Until it gets to tribunal, where you can present the facts to someone that is not a moron.
    [greenhighlight]but it matters when the most senior politician in the land is happy to use language and examples that are simply not true.
    [/greenhighlight][redtitle]
    The impact of this is to stigmatise people on benefits,
    and we should be deeply worried about that
    [/redtitle](house of lords debate, talking about Cameron)
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