new born kitties.

Fire_Fox

Perhaps call the emergency vet? Sorry to be blunt but as this is your cat (and thus your kittens) it's not really the RSPCA nor any other voluntary organisation's responsibility. Cat charities are full to bursting with new kittens, and many are closing due to getting fewer donations in the recession. Please lock your queen indoors until she is neutered, she can come into season any time.

Some veterinarians will do pregnant spays and spays whilst nursing because there are not enough loving homes, because emergency C-sections and other post-natal care is hugely expensive, because some owners don't keep queens who are not neutered away from entire toms. It's often not about not caring, it's about being realistic, about thinking what is best for mum cat in the long run. Two litters by two, who knows what affect a third or fourth would have had, perhaps a vet?

atrixblue.-MFR-.

Fire_Fox wrote: »

Perhaps call the emergency vet? Sorry to be blunt but as this is your cat (and thus your kittens) it's not really the RSPCA nor any other voluntary organisation's responsibility. Cat charities are full to bursting with new kittens, and many are closing due to getting fewer donations in the recession. Please lock your queen indoors until she is neutered, she can come into season any time.

Some veterinarians will do pregnant spays and spays whilst nursing because there are not enough loving homes, because emergency C-sections and other post-natal care is hugely expensive, because some owners don't keep queens who are not neutered away from entire toms. It's often not about not caring, it's about being realistic, about thinking what is best for mum cat in the long run. Two litters by two, who knows what affect a third or fourth would have had, perhaps a vet?

sorry but WHAT??

i rang the RSPCA yes being responsable, their reponsability NO, yes i am aware of how the organisations are strugling and i make a donation everytime im at my vets of £5.00, and buy food to go in charity baskets at pets at home when i'm there buying fish food or fish stuffs wich is about every 2 weeks i know they struggle hence why ive stepped up to donate that little bit more to them.

its not my intension, nor my perogative to off load these kits to a charity run organisation at all. it was merely advice and what was best to do at the early stages of rejection.

ive only said to posters what was said to me not what my actions are going to be.

like i have already said, the RSPCA said they would organise me for them to be looked after AT MY EXPENSE if she fully rejected as i want to keep them, i didnt take up them up on it.

Fire_Fox

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

sorry but WHAT??

i rang the RSPCA yes being responsable, their reponsability NO, yes i am aware of how the organisations are strugling and i make a donation everytime im at my vets of £5.00, and buy food to go in charity baskets at pets at home when i'm there buying fish food or fish stuffs wich is about every 2 weeks i know they struggle hence why ive stepped up to donate that little bit more to them.

its not my intension, nor my perogative to off load these kits to a charity run organisation at all. it was merely advice and what was best to do at the early stages of rejection.

ive only said to posters what was said to me not what my actions are going to be.

like i have already said, the RSPCA said they would organise me for them to be looked after AT MY EXPENSE if she fully rejected as i want to keep them, i didnt take up them up on it.

Actually you didn't state at your expense, just complained speaking to volunteers on a Sunday was "like pulling teeth" and then had a dig at veterinarians for using their years of training and experience to make a clinical decision. Donations are donations, they don't entitle you to free advice. Is mum and her kittens insured?

IMO one dead kitten is not the early stages of anything nor a time to be moneysaving. The correct person for advice is your veterinary practice's out of hours service; as per forum rules "please be aware that asking for or posting specific vet/medical/treatment advice will be against the rules and therefore removed."

atrixblue.-MFR-.

Fire_Fox wrote: »

Actually you didn't state at your expense, just complained speaking to volunteers on a Sunday was "like pulling teeth" and then had a dig at veterinarians for using their years of training and experience to make a clinical decision. Donations are donations, they don't entitle you to free advice. Is mum and her kittens insured?

IMO one dead kitten is not the early stages of anything nor a time to be moneysaving. The correct person for advice is your veterinary practice's out of hours service; as per forum rules "please be aware that asking for or posting specific vet/medical/treatment advice will be against the rules and therefore removed."

as per forum rules perfectly aware and N/A in this case as i DIDNT ask for vet/medical/treatment advice, i asked an opinion on a situation that others may have come accross in the past. i took that advice and sought help where i could.

mum and kits are doing well thanks for asking.

speaking to volunteers on a sunday was helpfull limited but helpfull.

getting through was like pulling teeth.

as to having a dig at vets, not at all, but i do question the ethics of some, ive always believed that a vet should treat an animal no matter how big, small as a doctor would do if you were admitted to hospital, do the best by the patient neutering a nursing queen is not best by that patient, if you read back i didnt have a dig at vets i responded to a post that mentioned a vet that had spayed a queen whilst nursing kits.

no donating doesnt give a free ticket to free advice, i just responded to you pointing out that they are closing etc due to financial constaints because of economic down fall.

a time to be moneysaving? no, a time to be vigilant? yes, this was not an absolute emergency, if i had took my cat and kits to the emergency vet what other poor animal would of suffered because i took an emergency vets time up? mum is healthy kits are healthy my concern was her sitting and acting strange towrds her kits, sought advice yes. will mum and kits see a vet YES appointment thurday.

meritaten

Fire_Fox wrote: »

Actually you didn't state at your expense, just complained speaking to volunteers on a Sunday was "like pulling teeth" and then had a dig at veterinarians for using their years of training and experience to make a clinical decision. Donations are donations, they don't entitle you to free advice. Is mum and her kittens insured?

IMO one dead kitten is not the early stages of anything nor a time to be moneysaving. The correct person for advice is your veterinary practice's out of hours service; as per forum rules "please be aware that asking for or posting specific vet/medical/treatment advice will be against the rules and therefore removed."

What is your problem Fire Fox? As far as I can see Atrix didnt ask for specific (or even general vet/medical/treatment advice. He asked where to go for help or if anyone had come across this before to give some advice.
If he had suspected that the dead kitten was due to some disease I am sure he would have been the first to phone the emergency vet - but the kit had obviously suffocated so he asked advice on how to prevent further deaths.
He didnt ask for your uppity tone or to be reminded of forum rules which you dont seem to understand yourself!