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Blockbusters - CSR or manager on duty?

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  • DCFC79
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    Do benefits depend on hours or on income?

    If you found a job which paid double the hourly rate, would you want to work only 3 hours?

    If you work more hours and hence receive more pay, does the pay increase wipe out your benefits?


    i thought its the number of hours,
  • DCFC79
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    I took the job - in a small store, because it is close to home and I am trying to recover from illness. I don't want to work more than 6hrs cos it messes up my benefits who cannot cope with variable hours.

    sorry im just wondering so the benefit system cant cant cope with variable hours and who says you cant do more than 6 hours ? (is that a day or a week)
  • Lokolo
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    When I used to work at Domino's as a CSR I would regularly be asked to do what you have done OP, and take the role of manager. I enjoyed it, didn't get paid extra but it made the job a little different. I also got made manager of another store for a day (the manager before had a car crash and was in hospital, so they needed someone). If I wasn't going to uni I could have easily taken on the role of a permanent manager job.

    Personally I think if they are trusting you with cashing up and locking the store then you could have a better chance of going for a managerial position.
  • LittleVoice
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    DCFC79 wrote: »
    i thought its the number of hours,

    Wow. So I could work 6 hours at £100/hour and get benefits but not get benefits if I work 8 hours at £7/hour?

    I thought benefits were generally related to income, though I know JSA stops if one works 16 or more hours a week.

    Perhaps I should read more in the benefits board.
  • Nessi
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    Unfortunately it doesn't quite work like that. You can work up to 16hrs but you only get to keep the first £5 of your JSA as you are earning BUT you don't actually sign off so you can still benefit from Council Tax Benefit for example. Once you work more than 16hrs you have to sign off and then you wouldn't be eligible for Council Tax benefit (at least as a single person - not sure about other circumstances)
  • DCFC79
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    Wow. So I could work 6 hours at £100/hour and get benefits but not get benefits if I work 8 hours at £7/hour?

    I thought benefits were generally related to income, though I know JSA stops if one works 16 or more hours a week.

    Perhaps I should read more in the benefits board.


    i thought it was 16 hours or more that you couldnt claim jsa

    im not sure if its me but im not sure if your being sarcastic or not
  • LittleVoice
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    DCFC79 wrote: »
    i thought it was 16 hours or more that you couldnt claim jsa

    im not sure if its me but im not sure if your being sarcastic or not

    I think that "16 hours or more that you couldnt claim jsa" amounts to pretty much the same thing as "I know JSA stops if one works 16 or more hours a week".

    I'm not being sarcastic. I just don't see why someone can't work more than six hours a week apparently irrespective of what that amounts to in money terms. You say that it is the hours that matter not what they earn. From my perspective, what they earn must affect what help they need and someone earning £100/hour is likely to need less from the state than someone earning £7/hour.
  • LittleVoice
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    Nessi wrote: »
    Unfortunately it doesn't quite work like that. You can work up to 16hrs but you only get to keep the first £5 of your JSA as you are earning BUT you don't actually sign off so you can still benefit from Council Tax Benefit for example. Once you work more than 16hrs you have to sign off and then you wouldn't be eligible for Council Tax benefit (at least as a single person - not sure about other circumstances)

    We seem to have moved to discussing JSA.

    There is a 16-hour cut-off point but the OP is writing of working no more than 6 hours or her benefits will be messed up. So I don't think she is talking about JSA. If she is then she isn't eligible for JSA if she has a job for 6 hours and isn't willing to work more.
  • DCFC79
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    I think that "16 hours or more that you couldnt claim jsa" amounts to pretty much the same thing as "I know JSA stops if one works 16 or more hours a week".

    I'm not being sarcastic. I just don't see why someone can't work more than six hours a week apparently irrespective of what that amounts to in money terms. You say that it is the hours that matter not what they earn. From my perspective, what they earn must affect what help they need and someone earning £100/hour is likely to need less from the state than someone earning £7/hour.


    my apologies, yes it mgiht be based on what you earn but ive not explored that avenue yet, i was under the impression you could work but 16 hours or less. No idea what the OP is on about by saying he cant work more than 6 hours
  • I am recovering from illness and so am working under the permitted work rules - this means I can earn up to £20 a week extra. But any more than that and my benefits get cut. The DWP cannot cope with this and if my hours vary and are more than 6 per wk, they always get my benefits wrong. Every time I have to write to them to correct their mistakes. This is hugely stressful - and not helping my health. If I work a regular 6hrs a wk it is easier for the benefits agency and so they are less likely to screw up. Since I cannot earn more than £20 extra week, if I work more than 6hrs I am working for less than minimum wage - since I get the same money. Actually even working for 6hrs a wk I am working for less than minimum wage as £20 divided by £5.93= 3.37 So if I work for more than 3.37hours I am working for less than minimum wage. Fortunately I don't have to pay travel costs, or it simply wouldn't be worthwhile.

    There is no chance of being taken on full time - or even increasing my basic contract. Somebody else who regularly works loads of hours for them is still on a 6hr contract. He has been told that he only gets holiday according to his contract not according to how many hours he actually works, which really p'd him off. So you never know how many hours would be available, and can be called in at very short notice to do extra hours. As I am a carer I am limited in the hours I can do anyway.

    The others who cash up are not being paid extra to do this - and it is a regular thing - not just to cover holidays.
    They don't get paid extra for being manager on duty - even when they spend the day operating the store on their own - opening, closing and cashing up. They are still on minimum wage.
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