enviroment health officers

Hintza

Just deal with it the African way just keep: "saying yes nkosi (sir), yes nkosi" and once he has gone carry on as before. Do it the whitey way and argue he will no doubt be back.

Funkyfarmgirl

Outpost wrote: »

They're not scrap they're vintage tractors.

Besides, how would an environmental health officer who isn't a tractor fanatic be able to tell the difference unless he took a closer look while investigating a complaint?

well maybe in the countryside they could learn or even ask?

withabix

Was he from the Council or the Environment Agency?

Both have right of entry, just the same as the HSE and others.

Diver2

Was he from the Council or the Environment Agency?

Both have right of entry, just the same as the HSE and others.

The position of EHO does not exist wihin the EA, but perhaps the OP could clarify?

In relation to the powers of entry - I will check with a former colleague who is now an EA inspection officer, but I am sure that they cannot enter property without a serious reason to do so - a "fishing trip" is not a legitimate reason to trespass!

Regards

D2

easyhost

Diver2 wrote: »

The position of EHO does not exist wihin the EA, but perhaps the OP could clarify?

In relation to the powers of entry - I will check with a former colleague who is now an EA inspection officer, but I am sure that they cannot enter property without a serious reason to do so - a "fishing trip" is not a legitimate reason to trespass!

Regards

D2

if they have had a complaint then they are legally bound to investigate and have the powers of entry, they maybe vintage tractors and parts lying about and to the layman this is scrap and even vintage tractors will have fuel tanks and batteries and these could leak and contaminate the water table

Diver2

Easyhost - really not convinced by the powers of entry argument, even the police need much more than a mere complaint before can be empowered to enter a property.

Also an EHO, is not a layman, they should be have a clear understanding of the law and their relevance to groundwater protection and waste management.

The mere presence of some vehicles doesn't not mean in itself there is any groundwater protection issue and certainly the EHO would have powers to do anything unless there a confirmed significant problem.

Regards

D2

easyhost

where did i say an EHO is a layman

Diver2 wrote: »

Also an EHO, is not a layman,

you as a member of the public pass an area or property and see all these vintage tractors and engine parts piled up on a piece of land, to you a member of the public (layman) dont know these are vintage tractors and report this as an eyesore of scrap then an EHO does have the a duty to visit the land, enter and check for themselves

fluffnutter

Seems to me like an environmental health officer will be interested in issues that could affect environmental health, e.g. the land, etc. If your family owns a farm isn't it in their interest to be clued up on issues like this? I find it weird that it wouldn't occur to a farmer whether old vehicles could be a problem; I also find it a little strange that a farmer would be so clueless about the powers and purposes of an environmental health officer. Just saying.

mo786uk

Unles ssomeone who is au fait with EHO legislation can comment then this thread isn't going anywhere.

As I said abvoe they almost certainly have powers to enter business premsies without needing a warrant (they will be empowered by law) but is a farm a business premise?

Secondly, as someone else says, if a lot of the issues they deal with occur on 'land' whether its business or private then they may have powers to enter into any land in specific cirucmstances.

easyhost

mo786uk wrote: »

Unles ssomeone who is au fait with EHO legislation can comment then this thread isn't going anywhere.

As I said abvoe they almost certainly have powers to enter business premsies without needing a warrant (they will be empowered by law) but is a farm a business premise?

Secondly, as someone else says, if a lot of the issues they deal with occur on 'land' whether its business or private then they may have powers to enter into any land in specific cirucmstances.

a farm is a place of business selling produce for a profit so an EHO can enter the premises without needing a warrant. but look at the EHOs point of view, if you tell them to do a running jump as they cant enter without a warrant, they will get a warrant and turn up mob handed as you have something to hide in their eyes