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The Spring Bounce..... One for Graham.

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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    Did you know were still 20% down since peak?

    On the Northern biased Halifax.....

    10% down, Nationwide,

    11% down, Land Registry
    Did you also know theres only 4k between the bottom, that you and others called, and where we stand now on NSA prices? Just 4k.

    On Halifax....

    More like 12K on Nationwide.;)

    Could be hitting new lows soon, on these NSA figures.

    On Halifax..... The one that does not correlate with the other two. The one that is investigating it's methodology because the results are screwy, and the one that pretty much everyone agrees has a Northern bias.

    On that one..... Sure.;)
    Am I supposed to say "boom, headshot" now?

    If you live Oop North, where it's Grim. Why not?:rotfl:
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    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

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  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    edited 1 June 2011 at 9:52PM
    Oh what a surprise. The index which has a London bias is the correct one! Should have known!

    Strange how you use the wrong index when talking about peaks though....wonder if the wrong index had a higher peak? ;)

    Infact, makes you wonder why it had a higher peak....what with this Northern bias dragging it down. ;)
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    Oh what a surprise. The index which has a London bias is the correct one! Should have known!

    The land registry has a London Bias???:eek:

    Someone should tell them.
    Strange how you use the wrong index when talking about peaks though....wonder if the wrong index had a higher peak? ;)

    What convoluted nonsense are you on about now?
    Infact, makes you wonder why it had a higher peak....what with this Northern bias dragging it down. ;)

    Quite.

    No surprise even Halifax have now admitted it's unreliable then.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

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  • geneer
    geneer Posts: 4,220 Forumite
    Is this the point where we explain to Hamish what an "average" is and what relevance this might have to people who don't have an "average" house in every area of the uk.
  • AndyGuil
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    edited 1 June 2011 at 10:08PM
    http://www.estateagenttoday.co.uk/news_features/House-prices-will-have-to-be-chopped-as-sales-drop
    Dark outlook.

    Anyone that deals with financial markets will know that low buying volume demonstrates a reduction in price is required to attract buyers. The estate agent makes money from commission and without volume they go out of business.
  • Rinoa
    Rinoa Posts: 2,701 Forumite
    FWIW Lloyds are considering a review of the Halifax index.

    Halifax is too volatile. Nationwide tellls us what Land Reg will do in a couple of months or so but Halifax is now completely out of step with the other 2 main indices.

    If there is a north/south divide Land Reg would be an average of the other 2, but it follows Nationwide, not Halifax.

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5f6ba16a-6208-11e0-8ee4-00144feab49a,s01=1.html#axzz1J07DAfCd
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  • geneer
    geneer Posts: 4,220 Forumite
    AndyGuil wrote: »


    Well speak of the devil...
    However, a 3% monthly rise in London’s house prices, taking them to 5% higher than a year ago, will have distorted the national picture

    That is all.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Don't care which index you use really. Name your favourite. Currently, they are dropping on all of them. So that will do me. (And I don't mean monthly).
  • AndyGuil
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    geneer wrote: »
    Well speak of the devil...



    That is all.
    London house price rises are driven by high value properties that people do not purchase with a mortgage. The lower value properties are falling.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    geneer wrote: »
    Is this the point where we explain to Hamish what an "average" is and what relevance this might have to people who don't have an "average" house in every area of the uk.

    Is this the point where we have to explain mix adjustment and hedonic regression to geneer.....

    Again.:eek:
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
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