We're aware that some users are experiencing technical issues which the team are working to resolve. See the Community Noticeboard for more info. Thank you for your patience.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Avoiding VAT on a used car...

Options
124»

Comments

  • bigjl
    bigjl Posts: 6,457 Forumite
    I would gladly buy you a car and claim.back the VAT, though obviously i would keep it.

    First law of business, there are no friends in business.

    Obviously after is sold the car to you i would have to charge you VAT.
  • JasonLVC
    JasonLVC Posts: 16,762 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    sumguy wrote: »
    This is my hyperthetical question...

    How about you let me purchase the vehicle for you and you pay me the monies over the coming months. Perfect. Lets say its 10k with VAT. He purchased the van for me and over the next month or so I pay him back in full as promised and he signs the vehicle over to me providing me with a receipt for 10k.

    In April he reclaims the VAT and forwards it on to me, additionally, in April I file my 10k receipt and receive my 28% allowance for a works vehicle.

    :T Wheres the problem ?? :j

    The problem is the way VAT works. You can only reclaim VAT if it is for use in the business or if the business makes an onward supply of those goods with VAT charged upon them.

    Accountant purchases vehicle for £10k inclduing VAT, so that is £8,334 + £1,666 of VAT.

    Accountant reclaims the £1,666 of VAT on purchase.

    Accountant then sells the vehicle to you at cost price, so charges you £8,334 + £1,666 VAT which you pay him.

    Accountant, having made a sale to you, has to pay the VAT of £1,666 which he just charged you, over to HMRC as output tax (VAT on the sale).

    So he initially reclaimed the £1,666 on purchase and then he pays it back over to HMRC when he sells the vehicle.

    If he then kicked back £1,666 to you, he'd be seriously out of pocket and exposing himself to attack from HMRC.
    Anger ruins joy, it steals the goodness of my mind. Forces me to say terrible things. Overcoming anger brings peace of mind, a mind without regret. If I overcome anger, I will be delightful and loved by everyone.
  • LandyAndy
    LandyAndy Posts: 26,377 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts
    The OP can reclaim the VAT on the purchase of th LR if he is himself VAT registered. The main down sides to being VAT registered are 1. it involves more record keeping and 2. It increases your selling prices by 20% to non VAT registered customers.
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    Where do you think the VAT goes then ? just disappears ?

    New the car is £20,000 plus VAT so £24,000. Second hand it is £12,000 which is actually £10,000 plus VAT.

    You just cannot reclaim the VAT on a second hand purchase, though it still exists. Of course the VAT on he depreciated part has indeed vanished, into the coffers of the tax man.
    VAT is not payable on the sale price of a used car. It chargeable on the difference between the purchase price and the selling price. Generally it is not reclaimable; even by VAT registered businesses.
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 350.8K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.1K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.5K Spending & Discounts
  • 243.8K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 598.7K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.8K Life & Family
  • 257.1K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.