Blue Arrow Recruitment Breaking law??

jobneeded

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Sambucus_Nigra

Which law did you think they have broken?

RedSoleShoes

I think "breaking the law" is clutching at straws. As much as i despise agencies, I imagine it was more down to incompetancy and lack of communication rathern than deceipt. They may have been told by the company "tell these 10 people they have a job" then just not taken it any further, and maybe even have got their new staff from another agency who charged less or whatever.

Unfortunately, agency or no agency, a job offer mean very little until you receive something in writing with a definite start date.

jobneeded

employment law? you can't say to somebody "yes you have been successful" leave them hanging for weeks on end and then when they ask for confirmation in writting for an answer like the above"oh sorry you've been unsuccessful" can they?

LittleVoice

jobneeded wrote: »

They have already told me twice at the end of april that i had been successful over the phone. So. are they breaking a law between employer and employee? and is their anything i can do?

Whatever law you might have been thinking of, it's not been broken because you are not an employee.

Telling you on the phone you had had a successful interview doesn't constitute a job offer. Though you may have expressed pleasure that you would be joining the employer (Blue Arrow or another organisation?), you haven't formally accepted as there was no offer.

Keep your fingers crossed that it works out for you but (as you yourself suggested) you need to continue looking for whatever may be available.

Good luck.

LV

RedSoleShoes

jobneeded wrote: »

employment law? you can't say to somebody "yes you have been successful" leave them hanging for weeks on end and then when they ask for confirmation in writting for an answer like the above"oh sorry you've been unsuccessful" can they?

They have only broken employment law if you have a substantial reason for feeling that you have somehow been discriminated against - either racially, sexually, or in relation to a disability - and that this is the reason they 'changed their mind' and didn't give you the job.

In reality, you should have been suspicious after the first couple of times you called and got no joy.

All you can do is put it down to experience and keep applying and going for interviews until you get something firm.

However, if you do manage to take them court, please let us know as I would be interested to hear how you got on.

jobneeded

Thanks littlevoice

But that dosen't really make much sense as who in the real world goes to a recruitment agency who are advertising for hundreds people to take employment with them. i filled out an application form at a local mobile recruitment van,they then got back to me in less than 1 day,asking me if i could attend the final interview. I went, and then asked 2 and half weeks later if i had been successful at the interview and had been successful at securing a position. to which they said "yes" but we currently have no start date for you. ( as said above,they were stocking from their old warehouse,over to the new warehouse where i would have been working. and each week when i contacted them,to be told "yes their has been NO changes in your position. we are currently taking people on in "blocks" and you will be contacted within the next two weeks with the start date."

so... thats means nothing then? (sorry if it sounds rude and isn't aimed at your or anyone else trying to help me out here)

Thanks

LittleVoice

I agree it is misleading.

However even if they had offered you a definite job and given you a start date of, say, 1 July, they could still legally contact you on 1 June (or just as you turned up to start on 1 July) and say that unfortunately there was now no job for you.

When you are in the position of needing a job, even if you get a firm offer there is sense in continuing to look for another opportunity. There are stories of people turning up for work on Day One only to be met in the car park to be told the company is in liquidation and there is no job.

jobneeded

doubt DHL/Debenhams is going into liquidation though

i know blue arrow were looking towards setting on over 800 people over a 24 month period. its just really odd and rather un-proffesional to leave people in the dark.

Ive been with over 10 recruitment agencies and have been messed around like this or when i have started working usually a supervisor comes up to me and says the agency have pulled their contract on you,can you please leave.... its just unreal with agencies... but in warehousing its extremely hard to avoid them. as every company seems to use them given the exception for one or two. but they very rarely advertise jobs...

RedSoleShoes

Maybe you should complain to the branch manager at Blue Arrow? You might find that your recruitment agent did not do their job properly.

jobneeded

RedSoleShoes wrote: »

Maybe you should complain to the branch manager at Blue Arrow? You might find that your recruitment agent did not do their job properly.

Thanks Redsoleshoes

I did try and phone them today,got through to a woman at the head office who when i explained told me to ring a mobile number. to which i just got the answer phone. but left a message with details etc. either way if they have lost their contract with DHL or whatever then im still going to complain about the time wasted and the lack of communication on their behalf. as i feel its needed as it just seems like a complete lack of organization and just so lackadaisically put together