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Housing Benefit and Savings Statements

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  • bunny999
    bunny999 Posts: 970 Forumite
    [QUOTE=jetta_wales;43893686]Not giving information you are not asked for and not required to give is not covering anything up.

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    If there is a question about having sold property then this could indeed be a hurdle for her and that you will have to look into. How much did she actually receive from the sale and give to her children? Could her ex give written testament to the verbal agreement that they had?

    Unless the money was not too much then you might find this one just comes down to chance really on how the decision maker that gets her case decides to call it.

    Even with having to declare the sale of the house IF it is a question on the form, it would still likely be in her favour for itnot to be quite as recent as in the last 3 months as you know for fact they will ask for these statements.[/QUOTE]


    The housing benefit claim form asks for details of any property sold or money given away within the last three years
  • fluffymovie
    fluffymovie Posts: 1,417 Forumite
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    Bunny999, not all forms are the same and for example, my LA's doesn't ask this
    I currently manage a Housing Benefit service and have been working in Housing / council tax benefit (as was) since 2001.

    All views expressed in my posts are my own opinions and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer.
  • dseventy
    dseventy Posts: 1,220 Forumite
    bunny999 wrote: »
    The housing benefit claim form asks for details of any property sold or money given away within the last three years

    Yes its on the form.

    Plus, someone will shop her in anyway, it usually happens.

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  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    Arg wrote: »
    On this forum we help people get what their entitled to.

    But she's not entitled - that's the whole point.
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    Not giving information you are not asked for and not required to give is not covering anything up.

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    You seem unfamiliar with the concept of lying by omission.
  • seven-day-weekend
    seven-day-weekend Posts: 36,755 Forumite
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    edited 25 May 2011 at 2:36AM
    So why did she give the money away if she knew it would mean she could not pay her rent?

    Why should the State fund her childrens' windfall?

    I believe it does ask on the forms whether you have sold a house . (EDITED to add : See page 19 of this form http://www.dwp.gov.uk/advisers/claimforms/hctb1_print.pdf )

    They will want to know what has happened to the money. A 'verbal agreement' will not wash. Anyone could say that.

    I personally think it will be classed as Deprivation of Capital.
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  • Marisco
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    So why did she give the money away if she knew it would mean she could not pay her rent?

    Probably because if everyone knew about the "verbal" agreement, and she didn't honour it, there would have been hell on within the family. It will look "dodgy" to the benefits agency though, especially as there is nothing written down. Which is understandable, as everyone could do it, give money away then claim benefits. For all they know, she could have given the money "away", claim the benefits, and get the money back!
  • elmer
    elmer Posts: 944 Forumite
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    We get a list from the inland revenue, which is matched to benefit claimants, and any discrepancies are investigated by our fraud dept.

    As we only get this once a year, your relative could be granted HB and then find herself investigated at a later date because of deprivation of capital.

    we now have data matching from quite a few goverment departments to combat fraud

    elmer
  • Whilst everyone is talking about fraud I was wondering if anyone out there in cyber space could help with a dilema please? Have looked every where my computer ability allows me to, so I'm asking anybody who actually knows . My husband is in receipt of housing benefit and has applied for ppi which he will receive, 1st payout will be between £1,400/1,600 we have been told, 2nd payout between £1,250/ 1,350 and 3rd payout is £1,500/2,500 he will obviously pay tax on them but will it affect the housing benefit in anyway, he has loans he needs to pay off that is why he applied, he is self-employed on a quite low income and I don't claim any benefits other than the usual child tax credit and working families tax credit and child allowance we live on the poverty line and if anything goes majorly wrong have to ask my parents for help, obviously they get paid back over time, so to put it bluntly like the majority of the earth we just get by If someone could show me a sight for the correct information I would be very happy . Thank-you:T:rotfl:
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