Ryan Giggs, football money and the effect on the economy

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chucky wrote: »

if the guy earns millions a year what has it to do with anyone else. he's a talented person making the most for himself and his family.

if the guy decides to go with another woman what has it got to with anyone else, apart from him, his wife and the Big Brother contestant.

too many people love these car crash stories that get quite boring.

I agree in the case of the footballer, however, the likes of Goodwin covering up their sleazy actions in what is now a publicly owned bank is another matter.

rxbishop

Pretending to cry is never acceptable. Why would you pretend to cry? When you get hit by the ball in cricket it is traditional not to even rub the area because you don't want the opposition to know you're hurt.

I'm not talking about corruption, all sports are corrupt to some level - I know cricket is. I don't know why you'd say rugby and cricket are probably the two most corrupt sports. Look at FIFA.

I'm a lifelong Luton fan - get used to it.

FTBFun

rxbishop wrote: »

I'm a lifelong Luton fan - get used to it.

.....who didn't go to the play off final. I went to the Conference play off final in 2007 despite the team involved being my 2nd team.

bendix

chucky wrote: »

if the guy earns millions a year what has it to do with anyone else. he's a talented person making the most for himself and his family.

if the guy decides to go with another woman what has it got to with anyone else, apart from him, his wife and the Big Brother contestant.

too many people love these car crash stories that get quite boring.

i agree to a point, but Ryan Giggs more than many other footballers has used the media to present an image as a wholesome family man who rises above scandal. He has appeared in those trashy mags like Hello and OK now and again, and his carefully crafted media interviews have positioned him as whiter than white.

I don't know or care whether any allegations that may or may not be flyng around about him are true or not, but celebrities can't complain when the very media they use (backed by expensive PR hacks) turns around and bites them.

That's why people like Alex Higgins and George Best were so beloved. They were bad boys and proud of it.

Today's bad boys are the quintessential hypocrites. I don't think people judge them for shagging models; they judge them for rank hypocrisy.

Which reminds me, why did Ryan Giggs look so uncomfortable holding the trophy aloft yesterday? Is he having problems at home?

:rotfl:

bendix

[quote=[Deleted User];43856648]I agree in the case of the footballer, however, the likes of Goodwin covering up their sleazy actions in what is now a publicly owned bank is another matter.[/QUOTE]


But it wasn't publicly owned when he was there, so why the distinction.

You didnt really think this through, did you?

rxbishop

None of our business who he's throwing one up imo. Quite right that there is a law in place to stop it, though it doesn't exactly appear to have worked this time.

If a member of my family cheated on their partner, I'd be horrified if it was all over the papers and stuff - not nice for the innocent spouse nor the children. Good luck to him for smashing her back doors in, but it really is not any of our business.

spadoosh

rxbishop wrote: »

Pretending to cry is never acceptable. Why would you pretend to cry? When you get hit by the ball in cricket it is traditional not to even rub the area because you don't want the opposition to know you're hurt.

I'm not talking about corruption, all sports are corrupt to some level - I know cricket is. I don't know why you'd say rugby and cricket are probably the two most corrupt sports. Look at FIFA.

I'm a lifelong Luton fan - get used to it.

Again, your choosing extremes. Not every footballer crys, i refer you to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO6j_YrnPPQ


And you are talking about corruption, players feining injury is attempting to decieve the ref by dishonest means. In football this is corrupt.


*edit* appologies i tried to get a vid of rafael but it was a link. this is the same though! To be fair its kevin davies and you could remove a leg and he wouldnt cry and then go on to score a belter

rxbishop

an you remember Harlequins in their Heineken Cup match against Leinster in April 2009 and the fake injury involving the use of fake blood capsules?

Yes and they were severely punished, retrospectively, and rightly so. A shame football appears to have no appetite whatsoever for cleaning up their game. They still don't even use video footage for anything other than the odd retrospective inquiry into some bloody yellow card or something. Why are they so backward, they've got all that money, but seemingly no desire to improve the game at all.

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bendix wrote: »

But it wasn't publicly owned when he was there, so why the distinction.

You didnt really think this through, did you?

We're paying his pension. EDIT: He also was in charge of a bank that created massive debts the taxpayer then had to rescue. Maybe he and the bank would have performed a little better if he was thinking about something other than promoting staff in return for sexual favors as it has been alleged.

If he didn't think it is scandalous why did he buy an injunction? It's not as if he is an A-list celebrity is it.

PasturesNew

spadoosh wrote: »

Clubs like luton NEED money from gate reciepts and shirts and even this doesnt cover it. As a luton fan you know that these clubs more or less constanly run at a loss and are often subsidised by wealthy fans (chairmen) just so they can keep their passion and the fans passion alive.

They used to run OK when the footballers earnt 3/6.