Accused of Fraud.

AnxiousMum

tartane wrote: »

£10 per night!!!!

does the amount really matter? Fraud is fraud whether it's a penny or a grand.....

The fact that you have said that DWP are alright with paying the 'arrears' of child support from when it should've been counted towards benefits - sorry, don't believe a word of any of your posts. They have gone after several since the switchover in april 2010 - where pwc's have all of a sudden filed with CSA knowing they would get more, and it's come out that they were receiving undeclared cash prior to that. So.....putting you down to being a troll.....night night!

allen35

If your daughter feels as though the decision is wrong did she appeal as it was 7 weeks ago and if not what new arrangement is in place to pay rent, council tax etc.

School friends, babies and one man with his boxed van...... sounds a bit like rita, sue and bob too!!

allen35

apologies for the pun but my point is she should of challenged the decision at the time and if not should reapply. It does sound her ex is not financially responsible for her and how long will this continue or yourselves affording to help out. For the sake of the £10 she should stop. He can see his child and then leave after bedtime, no harm done and would diffuse the situation with being wrongly accused. These things tend to be someone you know so someone obviously felt he was living there i'm afraid.

iluvmarmite

It may actualy depend on the area of the benefit office as to how they view certain things. My daughter broke up with her ex but they live in a private rented flat which is in her partners name, her ex didnt have anywhere to live so after a week or so decided that his was his flat so he would live in it regardless of what my daughter said.

My daughter claimed IS after he left, and one of her neighbours reported her to the benefits office for fraud, as they saw her ex moving back in. My daughter was interviewed under caution and told the fraud officer that although her partner lives full time in the flat with her and their two children, they lead separate lives, her ex sleeps in the single room and she sleeps in the double room with the two kids, he does all his own washing, cooking and cleans his room, he has a TV in his room so does not go in the living room with her, the only money he pays her is £60 a week for the two kids, they have gas and electric key meters so he puts in £5 a week and so does she, so he is paying for his own gas and electric.

He does pay the rent on the flat but thats all, he doesnt give my daughter a penny for anything thing else. The DWP accepted this and classed him as a non dependant adult who lives in the same flat but has no contact with my daughter in any other way, and there was no fraud case to answer to.

She did go to the housing office to try and sort something out with them but they said as she has got somewhere to live they wont help her at all, and the landlord of the flat wont issue and eviction notice for her as he prefers having a family there and not a single man, so its a bad situation to be in for her but theres nothing she can do.

DaisyFlower

tartane wrote: »

I know. But that has never been the case. It was paid to him by his boss to cover overnight expenditure which he chooses to pay his ex in exchange for being given a meal, a shower and a bed.

I have no idea how she can reclaim any benefits as this set up still continues but I am hoping she will take my advice and kick him out and not allow him to stay over ever again.
If the little lad loses this regular contact then that is collateral damage, at least she can reclaim some benefits.

Anyhow sorry for hijacking this thread.

If she is happy with the arrangement and likes the regular contact then why not simply work and not rely on the state and she can have whoever she chooses staying over and contributing. The child is obviously not a baby so no reason not too.

paulofessex

Classic case of the original OP's posting being hijacked.

jjj1980

paulofessex wrote: »

Classic case of the original OP's posting being hijacked.

Exactly what I was about to say!!! You beat me to it.

jjj1980

AnxiousMum wrote: »

Does he have his own place? Was he able to provide evidence to them that he has his mail sent somewhere, show a rental agreement or something, is on the electoral roll elsewhere, and.....does he pay child support?

You mention that he has lots of bills to pay - if you are indeed separated, then one of those bills should be for child support. It is his legal and moral obligation to help provide for his children.

Maybe in future, you need to have him spend time with the children at his place rather than yours.

Anxious Mum, have to disagree with you here, there may be a very good reason why he spends time with the child at the mother's house and not his own. This is not for us to question or comment on.

If its going to cause issues with people living around you trying to cause problems, might it be worth getting a solicitor to draw up a contact agreement which states that all contact will be taking place at your house, with the times being flexible. Also, stating however that your child's father returns to his own residence each night.

joeblack066

Apologies to the OP - your thread has truly been hijacked here - but Tartane has your daughter thought about working to support herself and her child? Then no one would be able to interfere with the personal arrangements between her and her child's father. It seems to me that she has done all she can to make sure she gets the max out of the system that she can, and is disgruntled now it has stopped.

Kimitatsu

I am closing this thread since the OP has fled (unsuprisingly)

Tartane please start a thread of your own