Any tried recording their medical?

Richie-from-the-Boro

That was a Christian Scientist religious argument / case .. .. nevertheless case came down to :

- the claimant must now be told in advance - if you want it [ audio or video ] taped, you can have it if:

- you pay loads~a~wonka
- all HCP's concerned agree
- only to ' simultaneous copy police benchmark ' [ ** ] standards

its good that you bring this to the group - - rogerblack
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** The recording must be made by a professional operator, on equipment of a high standard, properly calibrated by a qualified engineer immediately prior to the recording being made. The equipment must have facility for reproduction so that all parties can retain a copy of the tape.

cit_k

There are three possibly four methods for successfully recording atos medicals.

One is overt - ie with permission, where you record it youself - under the terms as already mentioned in this thread (ie professional sound engineer calibrating professional evidential quality dual recording machine immediately prior to the recording) with full permission granted by ATOS and the HCP in question.

Two is overt again, with permission from the DWP/ATOS where ATOS themselves record the medical, on their own evidential quality dual (or triple more likely) recording equipment, NOT using a sound engineer, but more likely using just the HCP who may not even know which way up to put the tapes in or simple things like it helps if the machine is switched on first.
They will also possibly (it seems to vary) force you to sign a document stopping you from using the evidence for ANYTHING other than the purpose of obtaining benefit, which is almost certainly a criminal act on their behalf as they are restricting you from providing evidence to regulatory bodies or courts if the purpose is not about obtaining the benefit (ie if you wanted to sue them or complain to the GMC etc etc).



Three is covert - where under NO circumstances you inform them you are recording the medical as they will (if its not agreed in advance and following their terms) not proceed with the medical and halt the proceedings, probably meaning you get into problems with your claim.
You use your own equipment (phone/dictaphone/whatever) and hide it so they dont know what you are doing.

Four is where you do both covert and overt - ie get permission, get atos to record it, BUT also record it secretly yourself so you are not restricted in what you can do with evidence.

If you wish it to be recorded the best bet is to fire off two letters, one to the DWP and another to ATOS requesting that the medical be recorded by ATOS before you are prepared to attend.

If they give you any grief, or refuse to allow this - post back/pm me and I can supply more ammunition to use against them.

rogerblack

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

** The recording must be made by a professional operator, on equipment of a high standard, properly calibrated by a qualified engineer immediately prior to the recording being made. The equipment must have facility for reproduction so that all parties can retain a copy of the tape.

Umm - no.
That's section 26, restating the DWPs official position.
The bit about 'christian scientist' is referring to a completely different case.
Section 44.
44. In those circumstances it is difficult to see how the appellant, or anyone else in his position, has an absolute right to tape-record a medical examination on his own terms. This is not to say that the Department’s restrictive policy about tape-recording cannot be challenged.

Adaline

Thanks everyone for the responses. I'll wait until I get called for the medical, and then take it from there. But if some places like Nottingham are introducing it I wonder if that can be used as a way to get them to do it make it equitable. Probably not, as these things go, but anyway.