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NS&I How much will "tax free" save? Confused
Wul
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I'm new here so go easy.
I'm planning to invest in the latest NS&I 5 year tax free, RPI+0.5% savings certificates.
However on Martin's savings best buys there are similar products that offer RPI (Retail Price Index) + 1.5%, or even 2%. These are not tax free like the NS&I and Martin notes that "It only beats inflation if you dont pay tax".
That's what I don't understand; surely 2% is four times as much as 0.5%, leaving plenty of margin to pay off the tax and still get a better return.
If I were to pay tax on the interest from 2%, I'd be paying 20% (or one fifth) of the 2% return, which makes the tax man's share 0.4% of the effective rate I'm getting, leaving me with 1.6% to myself, or more than 3 times what NS&I are offering.
So how come getting a rate of 0.5% tax free is so much better than paying tax on 2%?
I'm sure I must be missing something here, please enlighten me.
I'm planning to invest in the latest NS&I 5 year tax free, RPI+0.5% savings certificates.
However on Martin's savings best buys there are similar products that offer RPI (Retail Price Index) + 1.5%, or even 2%. These are not tax free like the NS&I and Martin notes that "It only beats inflation if you dont pay tax".
That's what I don't understand; surely 2% is four times as much as 0.5%, leaving plenty of margin to pay off the tax and still get a better return.
If I were to pay tax on the interest from 2%, I'd be paying 20% (or one fifth) of the 2% return, which makes the tax man's share 0.4% of the effective rate I'm getting, leaving me with 1.6% to myself, or more than 3 times what NS&I are offering.
So how come getting a rate of 0.5% tax free is so much better than paying tax on 2%?
I'm sure I must be missing something here, please enlighten me.
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You have inflation at 0%. Do the maths with the current inflation rate of 5.2%. Or a higher tax-rate.0
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Hi Wul and Welcome :j
My understanding is that on the non-NS&I index linked bonds, you'd have to pay tax on the full percentage, IE if you had inflation at 5% and 1.5% bonus, that 6.5% actually is effectively around 5% after tax...hence why in the NS&I bond, you'd still get the 5% (as an example) plus 0.5%, a total of 5.5% tax-free, so overall NS&I bonds pay better!
If I'm wrong feel free to correct me anyone, the above is just my understanding of it!
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That 1.5% isn't per year. It's just a once-only 1.5% bonus at the end of 5 years, so roughly equivalent to 0.3% a year."It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0
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That 1.5% isn't per year. It's just a once-only 1.5% bonus at the end of 5 years, so roughly equivalent to 0.3% a year.
The BM version pays an additional 1.5% each year.
If inflation drops, as forecast, that should mean a better return that NS&I.
So the OP makes a fair point, but NS&I have the guarantees.
Of course, if you think inflation will fall and interest rates will rise, the access to NS&I could be useful.0 -
But that's only if you are prepared to be locked in for 5 years. Their 3-year one only pays 0.75%.opinions4u wrote: »The BM version pays an additional 1.5% each year.
With NS&I you can get at your cash at any time if you so need.0
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