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Guarantor needs advice.

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  • It is headed Deed of Guarantee
    Havent got a scanner to put full document on here ,


    part of it says Tenants are responsible for the payment of all rent and all liabilities falling upon the tenants during the tenancy or any extension of it as well as any breach of the agreement , and individually each tenant is responsible for payment of all rent and all liabilities falling upon the tenants as well as any breach of the agreement until all debts have been discharged in full.
    Consequently
    Guarantor is liable for the payment of all rents and all liabilities falling upon the tennants during the tenancy as well as any breach of the agreement until all payments have been made in full

    It states the gurantee shall continue throughout the period that the property is occupied by the tenant or by occupiers licensed by the tenant including any extension or continuation or statutary periodic tenancy which may arise following the end of the period set out in schedule 1 of the tenancy agreement.
    and the last line states
    This guarantee shall not be revocable by the guarantor , nor will it be rendered unenforceable by the guarantors death or bankruptcy.

    So if the tenant runs up utility bills too am I liable for those too?
    I cant believe what moment of madness had overtaken my brain when I agreed to this :mad:
  • gordonbennet
    gordonbennet Posts: 229 Forumite
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    So you would I'm afraid, be liable beyond the 6 month term, for as long as this tenancy lasts.

    I don't believe you would however be responsible for the utility bills - assuming these are paid by the tenant to the utility companies (and not via the landlord). The Deed of Guarantee you signed was for the tenants obligations to the landlord - not to anyone else. The utilities can't hold the landlord responsible for non-payment by his tenants, therefore you have no responsibility there.
    I'm not a lawyer, so this is just my opinion. Don't go acting on legal advice you get from a stranger on the internet!
  • taxsaver
    taxsaver Posts: 620 Forumite
    This guarantee shall not be revocable by the guarantor , nor will it be rendered unenforceable by the guarantors death or bankruptcy.

    I do not think these parts are valid. Just because something is written in an agreement does not automatically make it enforceable.

    Any g'tee has to be revocable (as long as it doesn't disadvantage the beneficiary - which it doesn't once he is able to give notice to the tenant and has regained possession) and certainly it cannot endure beyond bankruptcy. In the case of death, then again the liability must be determinable otherwise it would not be possible to conclude the winding up an estate!
    If you feel my comments are helpful then I'd love it if you 'Thanked' me! :)
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    It states the gurantee shall continue throughout the period that the property is occupied by the tenant or by occupiers licensed by the tenant including any extension or continuation or statutary periodic tenancy which may arise following the end of the period set out in schedule 1 of the tenancy agreement.
    and the last line states
    This guarantee shall not be revocable by the guarantor , nor will it be rendered unenforceable by the guarantors death or bankruptcy.
    Was your signature to this Deed witnessed at the time of signing?

    Provided this Deed has witness signatures next to yours, you are ****ed I'm afraid.
  • G_M wrote: »
    Was your signature to this Deed witnessed at the time of signing?

    Provided this Deed has witness signatures next to yours, you are ****ed I'm afraid.

    Yes it was , my best hope is for the relative to move then I suppose :(
  • jjlandlord
    jjlandlord Posts: 5,099 Forumite
    Yes it was , my best hope is for the relative to move then I suppose :(

    Anything you pay because of this guarantee is a debt to you by your relative: You can and should recover the money from him.

    Also you should not pay anything until the landlord has provided you with all the documentation proving what's due, then wait a few reminder letters, try to negotiate, etc. ;)
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