Is this right?

Wee_Willy_Harris

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

I think they should use some common sense and look at the housing situation in their area, and if it looks like they wont be able to get a property big enough to house them then its pretty obvious that having another child is a bad idea.

Let me re-phrase that for you.... Should families in social housing be prevented from having more children than they already have and should those who marry anyone in social housing give up any existing children?

Graham_Devon

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

Isn't that the same as the suggestions you seem to take such issue with?

Don't believe so, no.

"so you are saying, suggesting, implying" is wildly different to ASKING someone "surely you can see.....".

(Cant actually believe I'm having to explain such stuff!!!)

Wee_Willy_Harris

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

Does it over ride the council employees gossip from the tv program.

Did the council employee DENY them access to the waiting list?

Wee_Willy_Harris

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

Oh ok i was not aware that there was infinite building plots in surrey, sorry my mistake.

Plenty of green left in Surrey.

Wee_Willy_Harris

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

So what happens when there are no council propertys left in surrey.

Crazy idea, I know, but they could build some more?

ukcarper

Graham_Devon wrote: »

So, point 1. There is nowhere, within a 15 miles radius, where you can buy a 2 bed cheaper than 300k?

Point 2. You've complained at the use of individual cases to make an argument. So you make an individual case to make an argument?

Novel.

Point 3. If they are on 15k a year total household income, extra kids are probably not that wise a move anyway. Will be a struggle enough on those wages.

I admit that like yours it's an extreme example but I think that social housing should be available to people on Low incomes whether they want to save for a house or not.

You could probable get a 2-bed terrace for £180k where I am now about 18 miles away. Do you think someone on £15k would be in a position to save for that and commute 18 miles a day?

Graham_Devon

ukcarper wrote: »

I admit that like yours it's an extreme example but I think that social housing should be available to people on Low incomes whether they want to save for a house or not.

You could probable get a 2-bed terrace for £180k where I am now about 18 miles away. Do you think someone on £15k would be in a position to save fore that and commute 18 miles a day?

No. I don't think they would be in that position. Neither do I think that they would be in a position to have extra kids. So to me, the whole point is a mute one, as, again, in my opinion, if people are making choices on having extra kids (please note I said the choice), the first thing to do on such a wage is to try to up it, so you can actually raise the child properly, forgetting buying a house for a minute.

Jimmy_31

ukcarper wrote: »

Council houses do become vacant, people get LHA, people who can afford to move out and commute like I did and people will stay living in crowded accommodation.

Not forever though eh, like i said we live on an island, this island can only sustain so many people and at some point something will have to be done in regards to people having as many children as they want

Wee_Willy_Harris

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Don't believe so, no.

"so you are saying, suggesting, implying" is wildly different to ASKING someone "surely you can see.....".

(Cant actually believe I'm having to explain such stuff!!!)

Nah, it's exactly the same.

ukcarper

Graham_Devon wrote: »

No. I don't think they would be in that position. Neither do I think that they would be in a position to have extra kids. So to me, the whole point is a mute one.

So you do think people on minimum wage should not be able to have a home and kids.