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employer refuses paid holidays

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  • 19lottie82
    19lottie82 Posts: 6,033 Forumite
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    Naf - Yeah on my payslip it states £6 ph, and I am over 21.

    I guess Nigra is right, first thing should be to speak to the accountants to get official confirmation that I do not receive holiday opay, then take it from there.
  • Naf
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    19lottie82 wrote: »
    No probs. I am on £6 per hour and the minimum wage is £5.93. Holiday pay accrued is just over 12% of what you have already earned, so this couldn't be the case.

    You got in there first lol...

    I calculate that (assuming you are over 21) it'd be £6.68 if your holidays were included like that... But if you're under 21 it'd only be £5.51 to include your holidays...
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  • Naf
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    picnic wrote: »
    holiday pay paid over the year in your wages is not allowed. check the acas website will give you more advice on this..

    It is for casual workers; so called 'Zero Hour' Contracts. There's no obligation for either party to offer or work any hours, so you just get your holidays worked right into your hourly rate
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  • Naf
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    19lottie82 wrote: »
    Naf - Yeah on my payslip it states £6 ph, and I am over 21.

    I guess Nigra is right, first thing should be to speak to the accountants to get official confirmation that I do not receive holiday opay, then take it from there.

    And I assume there's nothing holiday related on there at all?
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    - Mark Twain
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  • 19lottie82
    19lottie82 Posts: 6,033 Forumite
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    no, nothing.
  • Naf
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    Sounds like this 'Manager' (although I think its a bit cynical putting her down like has been; I have taken on some managerial responsibility with no extra pay because its good experience I wouldn't get otherwise) is just plain wrong, or the company policy is illegal and trying to screw people (which could be the case if she is, indeed, manager and on NMW like her staff). I sympathise with them not wanting to pay holidays; it is difficult for a small business having to pay people when they're not at work; but that doesn't mean they can try and squirm out of it...
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
    - Mark Twain
    Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon: no matter how good you are at chess, its just going to knock over the pieces and strut around like its victorious.
  • Sambucus_Nigra
    Sambucus_Nigra Posts: 8,669 Forumite
    19lottie82 wrote: »
    Naf - Yeah on my payslip it states £6 ph, and I am over 21.

    I guess Nigra is right, first thing should be to speak to the accountants to get official confirmation that I do not receive holiday opay, then take it from there.

    I doubt if you will get it - as they know it's illegal and unless a work experience person answers the phone and sends out an email by mistake, they will probably call your 'manager' and say that they have made a mistake and yes, you DO get holidays paid for.

    Unless they come up with another ruse; post back on here if they do won't you.
    If you haven't got it - please don't flaunt it. TIA.
  • 19lottie82
    19lottie82 Posts: 6,033 Forumite
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    thanks guys. will keep you updated.
  • paddedjohn
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    naf wrote: »
    it is for casual workers; so called 'zero hour' contracts. There's no obligation for either party to offer or work any hours, so you just get your holidays worked right into your hourly rate

    but the op isnt a casual worker, she works part time for 11 hrs a week so is entitled to holiday pay which cant be rolled up as this isnt allowed anymore.
    Be Alert..........Britain needs lerts.
  • Savvy_Sue
    Savvy_Sue Posts: 47,503 Forumite
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    OP, how long have any of your colleagues been there for?

    Because you've only got 6 months service, so the employer could just say "OK, don't bother coming back after your holiday". Does it look like that happens?

    At which point you'd be able to go after them for the holiday pay you've accrued up to that point, but you'd be without a job.

    I'm not saying don't pursue this. I'm just suggesting you do so carefully. You could try educating the manager and the rest of the staff and collectively put in a grievance.
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