30 or 90 days consulation period

castle96

Collective consultation - 20 or more redundancies

If your employer is thinking about making 20 or more employees redundant at one establishment within a 90-day period, they should consult with employee representatives. Only employees are included when counting the number of redundancies, not ‘workers’ without employment status.
Who your employer will consult with depends on whether you are represented by a trade union. This process is known as collective consultation.

above from direct gov site

<LI added="null">30 days before the first redundancy where there are 20 to 99 proposed redundancies and before the individuals have received personal notice of termination <LI added="null">90 days before the first redundancy where there are 100 or more proposed redundancies and before the individuals have received personal notice of termination
above from another site

My E'er (Wincanton) has lost the Focus contract. 400 of us there. "result in some or all of the E'es potentially being made redundant" says the letter. No doubt a few will survive, but CERTAINLY 100+ will go. They are adamant they will stick to the 30 days. OK, will still have to have the 121s, but surely they have to adhere to the 90 days ??

your thoughts please

getmore4less

Consultation can be less than the 30/90 days.

It is the first dismisals that have to be after the 30/90 days.

In clear cut cases it would be fairly easy to conclude consultation quickly and issue notices with the 30/90 day temination date or longer if contractual or statutory require it.


With a clear cut case like a contract loss I would think they can finish consultation quite quickly and then issue termination notices.

Until you have those you won't know if they are in the wrong.

Your reps need to sort this out.

castle96

Unison have "gone to Court"....

Company using as a defence something called 'tulcra', re "S188 and Sub sec 7"
?

SarEl

The Trade Union and Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 1992.

188 (7) Deals with special circumstances in which it is not possible to to comply with certain requirements of the consultation set out in legislation.

getmore4less

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1992/52/section/188


So Focus contract gone,

B&Q don't want the logistics for the stores they are taking.

Supported from a dedicated center in Tamworth

Any other customers on this site or other sites close?

Will this involve the closure of Tamworth depot.

Is angle,
This sub unit effectivly operates as an independant and is now bust.