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Dog ran under my car, owner wants 50% of vet bill

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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 450 Forumite
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    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    The onus would be on the OP to prove the dog was not under control.

    I'm afraid thats where you are wrong.

    The onus lies solely with the dog owner to prove the OP was negligent.

    If someone intends to make a claim due to someone else's negligence then by definition negligence has to be shown or proved. It seems clear here that this is not the case.
    :)
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I'm afraid thats where you are wrong.

    The onus lies solely with the dog owner to prove the OP was negligent.

    If someone intends to make a claim due to someone else's negligence then by definition negligence has to be shown or proved. It seems clear here that this is not the case.

    Dog owner: "Your honour, the OP ran over my dog, she saw me walking my dog in the car park and didn't look where she was going."

    OP: "Your honour, his dog was not under control."

    DJ: "Defendant, can you prove the dog was not under control?"

    OP: "No I can't."

    DJ: "I therefore find in favour of the plaintiff."
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 450 Forumite
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    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    Dog owner: "Your honour, the OP ran over my dog, she saw me walking my dog in the car park and didn't look where she was going."

    OP: "Your honour, his dog was not under control."

    DJ: "Defendant, can you prove the dog was not under control?"

    OP: "No I can't."

    DJ: "I therefore find in favour of the plaintiff."

    Your point is based on assumptions.

    You assume the dog didn't run under the wheel.

    How do you know the OP saw the dog & owner BEFORE the incident occurred?

    As has already been pointed out it would take some doing to intentionally run over a dog with the rear wheel & not the front one :D

    What would you have done in the same situation? Admitted full liability and offered to pay all the vets fees?
    :)
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Your point is based on assumptions.

    So are yours.
    You assume the dog didn't run under the wheel.

    But then, you are assuming that it didn't.
    How do you know the OP saw the dog & owner BEFORE the incident occurred?

    The driver should have been paying more attention. I wonder what kind of conversation we would have been having if this was child.
    As has already been pointed out it would take some doing to intentionally run over a dog with the rear wheel & not the front one :D

    Ever heard of reverse? Quite a common practice when one is parking.
    What would you have done in the same situation? Admitted full liability and offered to pay all the vets fees?

    I would hope I would have been more careful in the first place.
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • pendulum
    pendulum Posts: 2,302 Forumite
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    Dog owner: "Your honour, the OP ran over my dog, she saw me walking my dog in the car park and didn't look where she was going."
    Judge Judy: Don't tell me what she saw. You don't know what she saw. So, you were with your dog, in a car park, where it is reasonable to expect to encounter moving vehicles, is it not? That doesn't strike me as a good place to walk your dog Sir?

    "Umm..."

    Umm is not an answer...

    :)

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    I think the OP has done the right thing by passing it on to their insurer, because he/she no longer has to deal with the dog owner, and the insurer is very unlikely to pay up.
  • catflea
    catflea Posts: 6,620 Forumite
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    Knew someone would say it! :rotfl:
    Proud of who, and what, I am. :female::male:
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  • wba31
    wba31 Posts: 2,189 Forumite
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    Absolute nonsense.

    How is my opinion absolute nonsense? that's why i started the sentence with "To me..."

    but really, please tell me how someone can claim to be in 100% control of an animal that is not on a lead/in a box etc. please enlighten me
  • Tilt
    Tilt Posts: 3,599 Forumite
    Can I ask the OP if this was on a council run recreation park? If so, where there any park regs/signs which deal with excersising dogs i.e. should they be on leads?
    PLEASE NOTE
    My advice should be used as guidance only. You should always obtain face to face professional advice before taking any action.
  • Outpost
    Outpost Posts: 1,720 Forumite
    Tilt wrote: »
    i.e. should they be on leads?
    They should be on leads in carparks. People shouldn't need signs informing them of that. :)
    :cool:
  • spaceman5
    spaceman5 Posts: 2,716 Forumite
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Why would it have to be "proved the dog was not under control"?? The issue is whether the driver could have known the dog was there, if not then can you explain how he /she could have avoided the incident?

    The dog owner on the other hand did know the car was there & should have known what his dog was doing. I really don't see the argument here.

    A dog off it's lead is obviously not being kept under control by it's owner - dogs are not robots, they will do what they want if they are not on a lead.

    You are absolutely right about thank goodness it wasn't a child, as it could have been quite seriously injured. Doesn't change anything though.

    Incidents like this are not merely about "opinions", or "a bloke down the pub said.." it's about knowing who has responsibility and where, if any, negligence can be attributed.
    It would be highly unlikely the dog owner could prove the car driver was negligent.

    the fact there was an old man in slippers and pj`s waving a lead around at the side of the road may have been a clue;), but i do agree with everyone else`s views, the op has nothing to worry about and i would not pay or expect my insurer to pay for this in a million years, the vets have put the dog on a antibiotic drip just in case:eek:, that would be like me walking into a hospital and asking to be put into a full body cast, just incase i fell down the stairs in 3 weks time:D
    Take every day as it comes!!
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