alternative to a work placement on New Deal.

red_devil

I thought i would make a separate thread on this as some people may not know.

Your training provider can provide a course at their centre which you attend. It is mandatory but it means you dont have to do slave labour at a charity shop etc.

baza52

whats wrong with working in a charity shop? Do they pay less than other placements?

seven-day-weekend

I never understand what is wrong with charity shops either. Is it because people think that working in a charity shop is somehow beneath them?

However, according to the OP there is an alternative, so people who do think that way can now do something they consider more suitable to their vast skills and talents.

yappycat

Here's a snippet from a post the OP made in another thread:

There is an alternative to a work placement its a course with the provider. Its for 30 hrs a week and you can get first aid, manual handling, food hygeine certificates. Also you get help with interview techniques.

Personally I think that for many the above skills might prove more useful than working in a charity (or any) shop for that matter. It's not about someone doing "something they consider more suitable to their vast skills and talents" - more like doing something which might possibly gain them new and more suitable skills and talents.

exprog

What is wrong with charity shops is that they undercut and lead to closure of real shops with real jobs paying real wages.

In the sixties people said this would be the consequence of charity shops, and it is.

seven-day-weekend

yappycat wrote: »

Here's a snippet from a post the OP made in another thread:



Personally I think that for many the above skills might prove more useful than working in a charity (or any) shop for that matter. It's not about someone doing "something they consider more suitable to their vast skills and talents" - more like doing something which might possibly gain them new and more suitable skills and talents.

I agree that gaining a First Aid certificate and Food Hygeine Certificate is a very useful thing to do. My son and his girlfriend gained these while they were unemployed AS WELL AS working in a charity shop or doing other voluntary work.

seven-day-weekend

exprog wrote: »

What is wrong with charity shops is that they undercut and lead to closure of real shops with real jobs paying real wages.

In the sixties people said this would be the consequence of charity shops, and it is.

How many 'real'shops sell second-hand clothes and books and raise money for charity?

yappycat

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

My son and his girlfriend gained these while they were unemployed AS WELL AS working in a charity shop or doing other voluntary work.

Fair enough, however this doesn't justify the implicit sarcasm of your first post that assumes that the OP is suggesting an alternative for those who feel they are 'too good' to work in a charity shop.

dmg24

yappycat wrote: »

Fair enough, however this doesn't justify the implicit sarcasm of your first post that assumes that the OP is suggesting an alternative for those who feel they are 'too good' to work in a charity shop.

The OP has made their feelings on this subject clear on other threads.

yappycat

Again, fair enough but surely the OP's opinion of charity shops (as expressed in other posts) is irrelevant as to why someone reading that thread (in isolation) might appreciate being informed that there are alternatives?

This kinda points to why the cliques and rivalries present on this board end up making it a less constructive and useful forum than it really should be, especially to a newcomer.

seven-day-weekend

The OP referred to 'slave labour' in a charity shop, which implies that they think there is something wrong with this kind of work.

My post gave another point of view.

I agree that it is good to get some qualifications as well if possible, but to intimate that working in a charity shop is useless and unrewarding work is just plain wrong.