CSA payment system changing .. please help and advise

Sidekick_2

jaidenslot wrote: »

I have battled for years to get maintenance from my ex and have just been awarded it between me and another pwc even though the csa still haven't got it right as they've split it in 2 when i have 3 kids and she has 1, not received a penny yet and wouldn't bank on getting it either.
If this comes in i really can't see the point of continuing with the csa.
I left my ex because of years of domestic violence several years ago but although the police were called numerous times and i even went to the station and made a statement once he was never charged or convicted as it was in the days before they could go ahead without my consent.
Over the years hes been in and out of prison for violence the last time was against the other pwc and he did 18 months for that with an extra year for breaking the terms of his licence.
So she can prove domestic violence but i can't, would i be able to use his record against him?
So apart from the fact he will probably end up in prison again, hes also a serial job hopper. I will give him a few weeks after finding out he has to pay maintenance before he gives his job up.
What is the point of forking £100 out which i couldn't afford only to end up with nothing or if lucky £5 a week split between me and the other pwc

And you honestly expect to get maintenance from a guy like this?

Sidekick_2

DUTR wrote: »

Yes indeed, never laid a finger on a woman, I wonder how many nice blokes you turned down to to breed with this ex convict of yours?
Your post just highlights the fact that there are many who will put in false claims of DV so to avoid paying a CS admin fee :eek:

You make a good point, I'm sure there will be some false claims. However this could result in someone been sent to prison, which means no maintenance will be received.

DUTR

Sidekick wrote: »

You make a good point, I'm sure there will be some false claims. However this could result in someone been sent to prison, which means no maintenance will be received.

Well I do hope there is some strong criteria, eg a past conviction against the claimant, I have no qualms about the charge, it seems via this board too many are making claims just to spite an ex, and then launching a lifestyle incosistent with income because they are not getting as much as their friends down at the coffee club.

jaidenslot

DUTR wrote: »

Yes indeed, never laid a finger on a woman, I wonder how many nice blokes you turned down to to breed with this ex convict of yours?
Your post just highlights the fact that there are many who will put in false claims of DV so to avoid paying a CS admin fee :eek:

WOW! how bitter are some people on here!! You may have never laid a finger on a woman but many men have and it shocks me how you can mock it. You really don't have a clue about Domestic Violence do you!!
Would you like the name of my ex then you can google him and see what a really nice man you seem to be implying that i would be making false claims about!!

DUTR

jaidenslot wrote: »

WOW! how bitter are some people on here!! You may have never laid a finger on a woman but many men have and it shocks me how you can mock it. You really don't have a clue about Domestic Violence do you!!
Would you like the name of my ex then you can google him and see what a really nice man you seem to be implying that i would be making false claims about!!

The bitter person is YOU, you ex has gone off and made a new life which does not include you, many and the majority of NRPs contribute without too much resistance, it's true a small minority do not but even a smaller minority are wife beaters however it would not surprise me if the number magically increases when some PWCs find they have to spend some of their make up money on trying to spite the ex

jaidenslot

DUTR wrote: »

The bitter person is YOU, you ex has gone off and made a new life which does not include you, many and the majority of NRPs contribute without too much resistance, it's true a small minority do not but even a smaller minority are wife beaters however it would not surprise me if the number magically increases when some PWCs find they have to spend some of their make up money on trying to spite the ex

LOL! well i don't have time to argue with a narrow minded idiot like you as i'm late for work. God that must be a shock for you, I work lol

DUTR

jaidenslot wrote: »

LOL! well i don't have time to argue with a narrow minded idiot like you as i'm late for work. God that must be a shock for you, I work lol

I'm not arguing with you as I don't have to let you win, remember I'm not your partner or a wife beater, pay my csa, and don't have to go cap in hand to anybody to make ends meet , have a jolly good day at work though xx

Kimitatsu

Morning All

Can I please remind you to all be nice to moneysavers?

DUTR - you know better than that :cool: Many PWC's on here have to put in an appeal with lifestyle inconsisitent with lifestyle because there are just as many NRP's who will avoid their responsibilities as there are PWC's who feel that they are not getting "enough".

jaidenslot - are you not best rid of him? If he has been in and out of prison for DV, and you dont feel that he will contribute more than a few pounds a week, in my view I would just walk away and thank my lucky stars. However to answer your question, yes you could use his DV conviction to go via the CSA, but if he is a serial job hopper then you will still have to chase the CSA to catch up with him.

Play nicely children or I will close the thread

EclipsedMind

Kimitatsu wrote: »

Morning All
DUTR - you know better than that :cool: Many PWC's on here have to put in an appeal with lifestyle inconsisitent with lifestyle because there are just as many NRP's who will avoid their responsibilities as there are PWC's who feel that they are not getting "enough".

There are also plenty of PWC who will block contact and make allegations purely to reduce time with NRP. And the whole CSA overnight system rewards them for it and provides a financial incentive for a PWC to make shared care fail. I only hope the Family Justice Review findings get implemented in their entirety as tbh the whole system is fubar atm. I think in many cases shared residence should be a starting point and not so rare as it is currently.

As for DV many women make allegations of it during divorce. I personally had this despite me being the one assaulted and covered in blood (mine) when the police arrived and guess what nothing done as police say when she says she did not touch me and it must be self inflicted - no evidence. I guarantee it would have been different had I been female or had I defended myself I would be in prison now I suspect.

Anyway as Kimi says we should all play nice and tbh both NRP and PWC have their crosses to bear and the sooner we learn to see from anothers perspective the better.

Despite my experiences I still believe the best course is for NRP and PWC to behave like adults and make and stick to agreements on contact and maintenance. So I think the financial incentive from the CSA (via charges) to do so can't be a bad thing. As long as the penalty is the same for both sides its fair by being equally punitive. I will concede it sucks if only one of the pair is forcing it to go through the CSA but nothing in life is ever truly fair tbh so just wait and hopefully karma will even it up.

EM

DUTR

Kimitatsu wrote: »

Morning All

Can I please remind you to all be nice to moneysavers?

DUTR - you know better than that :cool: Many PWC's on here have to put in an appeal with lifestyle inconsisitent with lifestyle because there are just as many NRP's who will avoid their responsibilities as there are PWC's who feel that they are not getting "enough".

jaidenslot - are you not best rid of him? If he has been in and out of prison for DV, and you dont feel that he will contribute more than a few pounds a week, in my view I would just walk away and thank my lucky stars. However to answer your question, yes you could use his DV conviction to go via the CSA, but if he is a serial job hopper then you will still have to chase the CSA to catch up with him.

Play nicely children or I will close the thread

Indeed, the forum is not just a place for PWCs usually female to slag off their ex's whom not so long back they were in love with enough to try and conclude the episode by starting a family. There are truly genuine cases of CS help required, but sadly many posts and the cause is blighted through greed and spite. Let not the minority spoil it for the majority, resource must be wasted in chasing the few pounds extra where some PWCs get nothing at all, that to my eyes is due to greedy PWCs not DV cases