WCA checklist

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ATOS Checklist


It is a well established fact that the DWP Personal Capability Assessment is difficult to pass. This is because the DWP and ATOS Origin have conspired against the sick and disabled and have deliberately designed to assessment to benefit the DWP and not, as it is reported to to help the claimant back to work. This biased assessment is little more than an official method of denying you benefits you may be legally entitled to. There is an appeals procedure, however it is a very long and drawn out process which can take up to a year to resolve so be prepared for a siege. Based upon evidence and case studies provided by P.C.A. veterans I have put together a check list you may wish to run through before you go to your appointment.
An assessment sheet and contact form can be found on this blog on the assessing ATOS page and in the useful templates section on our sister forum dwpexamination.myfreeforum.org
On receiving communication to attend from ATOS contact your local authority welfare rights officer or CAB IMMEDIATELY for assistance in completing the ESA 85 or IB50 form.
It is imperative you read these three Manuals to understand the ESA WCA with a view to gaining enough points to pass.
You must be aware ATOS HEALTHCARE will use any excuse to deny you benefit.
Google ESA WCA Descriptors click on ESA work capability descriptors.
Google LiMA V3 technical manual med IBPW001e
Google ESA Handbook 1 Finalmed-esahb-01
Use the wording in the descriptors to explain your condition
Be prepared to make extensive notes including name of caller etc of any calls to or from the DWP or ATOS after receiving the form. Record these if possible
When completing the form make sure you stick to facts you can prove, do not embellish your symptoms, be precise in your use of medical terms.
Make a full copy of the ESA85 or IB50 form BEFORE YOU POST IT.
Do not include any copies medical reports or additional information as this will be ignored by the ATOS HCP, this information should be handed in by appointment to the Decision Maker when you start the appeals process.
Make arrangements to be accompanied on the day of the examination, make arrangements for a stand in, in case your first choice can not go on the day.
Make a list of any medication you are taking.
Make an accurate list (times and dates) of any Doctors appointments, specialists appointments Hospital visits, doctors visits, hospitalisation in relation to your claim etc
Always attend accompanied
Record your arrival time
Record waiting time
Record time examination starts
Do not be afraid to decline physical movements if they would cause you pain.
Record HCP name
Record HCP Title & or qualifications
Get your companion to make notes during the examination.
Record time examination ends
Record the time you leave
Check the credentials of your HCP with the BMA
Call your local JC+ within 24 Hours requesting a copy of the HCP report.
Do not take any further action until you have the Decision Makers report.
If you have been passed fit for work you must act immediately to appeal, you have one month from the date of the letter to do so.
The appeals process requires you to appeal directly to the Decision Maker first, be prepared to wait this can take a while.
Whilst waiting:-
Make a F.O.I. request for any information ATOS Origin hold on you
Make a FOI request for a copy of the video footage of you entering and leaving the building.
Make a FOI request for any audio recordings ATOS may have made during the time of your visit (even if they are for training purposes).

pwales_2

bloody hell ive just filled them in myself told them what's wrong paraplegic from fall give list of meds and how they effect me and how my disability effects my every day life , thats it ?
im in for a shock next time :eek:

dmg24

Scaremongering is not helpful 21twinkle ...

daska

I couldn't even read that lot in one go let alone do it :eek:

FleurDuLys

I just filled the form in myself, went to the medical, told the truth, didn't exaggerate anything, and got awarded ESA first time with no problems.

ShockingPink

FleurDuLys wrote: »

I just filled the form in myself, went to the medical, told the truth, didn't exaggerate anything, and got awarded ESA first time with no problems.

So did I! Have to say I was worried, but there was really no need.

pwales_2

FleurDuLys wrote: »

I just filled the form in myself, went to the medical, told the truth, didn't exaggerate anything, and got awarded ESA first time with no problems.

so did i so far, can esa be turned down for double incontinent wheelchair using para on fentyl and morphine ?
i just cannot see it that bad ?

G51shopaholic

didn't need to attend medical - got ESA support group rate, been 3yrs now.

Medical hasn't changed in over 30yrs.

It is the Governments (and governments going back to the Tories of the early 80's) stance that EVERYONE is able to work at something unless some disease or disability (mental or physical) prevents them.

But the people doing the medical can be from ANY medical profession - not always a doctor and i believe i read somewhere that the Government has set target of getting 60% back to work. People doing medical SHOULD have specialist knowledge of the conditions of the people they are going to see, how else can they decide if a person if fit or not?

How did they come by this figure or is it based on how much money they want to save?

FleurDuLys

I think I was fortunate Pwales, as it does seem that there's a number of people who ought to be awarded ESA and aren't. I certainly don't disbelieve the majority of those who come on here in distress because they have been turned down. However, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that applicants will definitely be turned down as a matter of course, as I also know plenty of people like myself who had no problems.

I was on morphine and various other drugs when I applied for ESA last year. I took a bag with all my medication in it along with me to the medical; in hindsight this was probably a good idea, as each medicine has your name printed on it, so it proves beyond doubt to the ATOS doctor that you have been prescribed it (whereas if you just give them a list, they'd have to write to your GP for confirmation that you're telling the truth).

System

Just got the dreaded envelope come through today. Reassessment for ESA by ATOS. no esa50.got it forst time round and was put in support group. mh has gotten worse so you'd think i wouldn't be worried but i am and i can't function right now. i guess its a good job i have my "contingency" plan for if they !!!! me over.