Any good cheap teeth implant clinics in N Ireland?

martin57

Hi folks,

I will probably have to get one of my lower left badly decayed molar teeth out. The dentist did take an x-ray and said it might be better to have it extracted but seeing my reluctance on that (due to the fact that the adjacent tooth was missing as well and it would definitely lead to a partial denture) he then did a root canal, but was only able to get part of the nerve out. The initial problem with the tooth was low level toothache and pain sometimes when biting down.

The main problem now is sensitivity to hot or cold drinks food with the tooth, I have a temporary filling at the moment and will go back next week probably to have it extracted, unless the dentist can come up with something to get rid of the bad sensitivity. He is an excellent dentist and I have total confidence in him.


A few questions.

1 is a partial denture on lower jaw hard to get used to and a lot of hassle?

and

2 is there any clinics in N Ireland that would would do a 2 tooth implant for £500 per tooth.

Hope someone can be of help.

many thanks
Martin57

brook2jack

Implants £500 a tooth wouldn't even cover the costs so no.Mostly you are looking £1500 to £2000 a tooth if you have right quality of bone and impeccable oral hygiene and no medical issues such as smoking,diabetes and don't grind your teeth.

Partial dentures are difficult to get used to, but if you are motivated most people will eventually get used to wearing them. However if you just have two teeth missing in the lower jaw you will probably find you will get on ok without anything. Most people can eat ok with 10 teeth on the top and 10 teeth on the lower. More important would be to change your oral habits so you don't lose any more teeth.

jeffer

brook2jack wrote: »

More important would be to change your oral habits so you don't lose any more teeth.

I don't think anyone's teeth all last forever no matter how careful they are and anyway the person probably isn't looking for that kind of advice.

I agree with you though that it may be possible to manage without a tooth or two so long as they aren't visible.

brook2jack

jeffer wrote: »

I don't think anyone's teeth all last forever no matter how careful they are and anyway the person probably isn't looking for that kind of advice.

Actually I see alot of people in their 70 s 80s and 90s with excellent teeth, due in part, to rationing of sugar earlier in their lives.

Your own teeth have alot better chance of lasting a lifetime than any replacement ,including implants, and function alot better than any replacements ,including implants. More importantly if you do not change your oral habits ,the money you spend on implants will be totally wasted as you will lose the implants even quickly than your own teeth.

jeffer

brook2jack wrote: »

Actually I see alot of people in their 70 s 80s and 90s with excellent teeth, due in part, to rationing of sugar earlier in their lives.

Your own teeth have alot better chance of lasting a lifetime than any replacement ,including implants, and function alot better than any replacements ,including implants. More importantly if you do not change your oral habits ,the money you spend on implants will be totally wasted as you will lose the implants even quickly than your own teeth.

We all know that our own teeth are better,but we are where we are.

And there is an unsubstantiated assumption being made here that this person hasn't been looking after their teeth, just because they happen to need dental work.

facingthefuture

I will be honest, I need an implant due to bad oral hygiene. This has now been totally corrected and I hope all the work my dentist has done to salvage what I have will stand a good chance of lasting for years. To be blunt, my own children have good oral hygiene, it was not instilled in to me as a child but it was my own fault I didn't catch on! I know the general standard of our teeth in Northern Ireland is poor. I think dental hygienists should visit schools on a monthly basis.It would be money well spent and encourage good habits from an early age.

martin57

Thanks for all replies. My oral hygiene is not bad at the moment, but like a lot of people of my age I probably didn't start talking some care of my teeth until I was at least 21.

A lot of my teeth problems are down to liking sweet stuff and soft drinks, but as someone who doesn't smoke or drink I feel that I need some pleasure out of life so giving them up completely in the past (or for that matter in the future) just to have good teeth isn't really an option for me.

I have seen a place in Bristol that does implants for less than £1000 per tooth but no good to me as too far away.

Probably will get tooth out this week , its second from back in lower left, third tooth on lower left is missing, and fourth tooth is a crown.

I am very grateful to everybody for their replies and am I correct in saying that if I need a partial denture it will be a 2 teeth one (one tooth for one I am getting extracted and one for the space of missing third tooth) Will there be a problem in hooking the denture to existing crown?

Also any advice in what kind of denture and attachment ot go for would be appreciated.

Many thanks for all your replies.

martin57

facingthefuture

Hi Martin, you poor thing....I know how horrible it is to go through. anyway, have you looked into getting a bridge? The thing about an implant is that it helps reduce bone loss from what I can understand....it takes 6 months to get done and you can pay on finance (I intend paying it over 6 payments) the initial consultation is normally around £100 and try and get someone who has experience (let someone else be a guinea pig!!!)

brook2jack

martin57 wrote: »

A lot of my teeth problems are down to liking sweet stuff and soft drinks, but as someone who doesn't smoke or drink I feel that I need some pleasure out of life so giving them up completely in the past (or for that matter in the future) just to have good teeth isn't really an option for me

and one for the space of missing third tooth) Will there be a problem in hooking the denture to existing crown?

Also any advice in what kind of denture and attachment ot go for

martin57

Can't say on design of denture without seeing you. However would say , as you are so honest in that you are not going to make diet changes, is that whatever you have done should bear in mind you will get decay in your other teeth and the tooth that is crowned is not immune from decay. With this in mind you should stay away from complicated treatment like bridges as you are more likely for these to fail due to decay. You will also have to be meticulous around a denture as plaque will build up more and with a high sugar diet you are more likely to get decay around the remaining teeth.



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martin57

Thanks Brook2jack for your help on here. It’s good to see a dentist on the forum.

Probably overall I do "try" to take care with my teeth now giving them a good brushing with one of those 2 heads electric toothbrushes every evening and using floss as well just a quick brush in the morning . Its just that I want to eat stuff like cake during the day as well so its a matter of trying to have the best of both worlds "eat cake but keep my teeth" ...lol

I did a google on partial dentures and so much stuff has come up. (I ruled out implants both for cost and time taken to fit them for now)

Just wondered if you would in general recommend any particular partial denture for lower jaw that is available on the NHS dentistry list In N Ireland?, though I fully understand that you can't advise me without seeing me, but just in general I am talking about.

I have read about a new flexible denture where the attachment part is the same colour as a gum and are supposed to be strong enough too.

Thanks very much,
martin57

brook2jack

Valplast dentures (flexible) are not available on the NHS. Immediately after the tooth extraction on the NHS you will only be able to have a plastic (acrylic) denture with no clips that is not flexible. After three months healing you may need another denture but on the NHS this is likely to be plastic or if you are lucky and suitable maybe a metal chrome cobalt denture with metal clips if your dentist is feeling generous ( the lab bills for chrome dentures are often almost as much or more than the NHS fee). There are no other types of denture available on the NHS.

Anything else will be private and cost £350 upwards. Valplast dentures even more. They stain quickly ,need special clensers, and only last five years before they need replacing.

However if you will only have two teeth missing then you may very well find you cope better without a denture.

You can eat cake and keep your teeth but only if you are eating or drinking sugary stuff no more than three times a day. Have sugar in your tea or coffee or snack on stuff in-between meals and you can brush 47 times a day and you will still get decay.