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Burger vans and planning rules

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  • bris
    bris Posts: 10,548 Forumite
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    He doesn't need to pay business rates to park his vans at his house. He needs to have planning permission and pay rates for the pitch where he trades each van from.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    Just because a person owns land, it does not mean they can do just what they want with it, at least not south of the border.

    Not north of the border either.

    But parking your own work vehicle at night on your own farm is not something that normally requires planning permission. That'd be nanny state sillyness to an extraordinary degree.
    Providing he was not causing an obstruction he could park his vehicles in the street. He might not be very popular though.

    Indeed.

    Which would almost certainly be worse for ALL of the neighbours. I suspect the person that forced him to do so would be equally unpopular.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

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  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Are there not special rules within national parks?
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    bris wrote: »
    He doesn't need to pay business rates to park his vans at his house. He needs to have planning permission and pay rates for the pitch where he trades each van from.

    That sounds right to me.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • lincroft1710
    lincroft1710 Posts: 18,913 Forumite
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    edited 28 April 2011 at 5:05PM

    Nobody knows if he's paying business rates or not.

    And having a home office (ancillary to his farm) where no customers come and go and no business is transacted, it is questionable as to whether business rates apply anyway.

    So what if it was a tractor parked overnight in his field?

    What's the difference?

    A dedicated office, which is never used for domestic purposes could well be subject to business rates, especially as it is used in connection with land upon which vehicles of the business are parked. The fact that customers do not visit is not relevant. However I would judge the case on what I found on inspection (I'm ex VOA).

    One or possibly two business vehicles parked at one's home would not attract business rates, but a whole fleet may be said to be a change of use of the land.

    Tractors, combines, ploughs, harrows, balers, muck spreaders etc. are normally parked on ag land, burger and ice cream vans are not.

    Personally as he's not my neighbour, I have no axe to grind in this matter, I am just posting what I see as the situation.
    If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales
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