incorrect D.O.B. on P60

no-oneknowsme

Hi , just a quick question.

My Daughter has just arrived home from work with her P60 , her first ever as she is in her first job.

I ran my eye over it to check that everything was correct and have noticed that her date of birth is incorrect on it.

Now , I will probably ring her head office tomorrow but in the meantime does anyone know if it would be the head office I would need to inform or would it be HMRC?

Lokolo

The employer would be the people who need to know. It's likely just to be wrong on her personnel file.

noh

I'm looking at one of my P60s and cannot see my date of birth or any space for it to be provided.

Now , I will probably ring her head office tomorrow but in the meantime does anyone know if it would be the head office I would need to inform or would it be HMRC?

It should be her informing them of any inaccuracies.
Neither should discuss an individuals details with a third party.

no-oneknowsme

noh wrote: »

I'm looking at one of my P60s and cannot see my date of birth or any space for it to be provided.



It should be her informing them of any inaccuracies.
Neither should discuss an individuals details with a third party.

Anyone can speak on behalf of any other person AS LONG AS CONSENT IS GIVEN.

I did explain that she is 17 , in her first job and didnt even know what a p60 was until she came home with it last night and asked me!

If we cant help our own Children gain experience about the big bad world then hey....;)

no-oneknowsme

noh wrote: »

I'm looking at one of my P60s and cannot see my date of birth or any space for it to be provided.



It should be her informing them of any inaccuracies.
Neither should discuss an individuals details with a third party.

P60's vary from Company to Company though so whilst hers has her DOB on it yours maybe does not.

The one she has received is identical to the type my Hubby received when he was employed. Mine however is totally different and doesnt contain a DOB.

They have her DOB as 3 years older than she actually is...maybe thats why they have been paying her a good hourly rate :rotfl: we thought they were just generous

System

no-oneknowsme wrote: »

Anyone can speak on behalf of any other person AS LONG AS CONSENT IS GIVEN.

I did explain that she is 17 , in her first job and didnt even know what a p60 was until she came home with it last night and asked me!

If we cant help our own Children gain experience about the big bad world then hey....;)

Yes you can speak on your daughter's behalf "as long as consent is given", but since you want to help your own children, wouldn't it be more beneficial in the long run to help her to deal with this herself. This may give her a better understanding of employment and taxes and also give her more confidence.

The company only send P60s to employees, they send a different form to HMRC (P14 I think) so the D.O.B. shown on the P60 will not impact on her tax affairs with HMRC.

She just needs to make sure that her employer has the correct D.O.B. and equally importantly her correct N.I. number.

If/when she starts paying into a pension, her D.O.B. must be correctly recorded, so make sure that all depts. in the company have the correct data.

no-oneknowsme

BAA1 wrote: »

Yes you can speak on your daughter's behalf "as long as consent is given", but since you want to help your own children, wouldn't it be more beneficial in the long run to help her to deal with this herself. This may give her a better understanding of employment and taxes and also give her more confidence.

The company only send P60s to employees, they send a different form to HMRC (P14 I think) so the D.O.B. shown on the P60 will not impact on her tax affairs with HMRC.

She just needs to make sure that her employer has the correct D.O.B. and equally importantly her correct N.I. number.

If/when she starts paying into a pension, her D.O.B. must be correctly recorded, so make sure that all depts. in the company have the correct data.

Thank you for your help re the incorrect date on the P60 .

The advice on my "Parenting skills" was also "helpful" however that is not what I asked for......

System

no-oneknowsme wrote: »

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The advice on my "Parenting skills" was also "helpful" however that is not what I asked for......

But you opened the door when you said :

If we cant help our own Children gain experience about the big bad world then hey....;)

But sorry anyway, didn't want to cause any upset.

noh

no-oneknowsme wrote: »

Anyone can speak on behalf of any other person AS LONG AS CONSENT IS GIVEN.

I did explain that she is 17 , in her first job and didnt even know what a p60 was until she came home with it last night and asked me!

If we cant help our own Children gain experience about the big bad world then hey....;)

You did not explain she is 17 in your first post but it is irrelevant

Of course you can speak on her behalf if her consent has been given but she might as well tell them of the error herself while she is on the phone giving them her consent to speak with you.

jimmo

One other thought, for Income Tax purposes the date of birth is not important, at least until age 65. The date of birth is not required on a P60 and if it is there that is down to the system the employer is using.
If your daughter advises her employers that they have her date of birth wrong it is not going to make any difference taxwise but if her rate of pay is age related there is a good chance that her employers will realise that they have been overpaying her. They may want their money back and may pay her less in the future.
A moral dilemma rather than a tax problem I think.

no-oneknowsme

jimmo wrote: »

One other thought, for Income Tax purposes the date of birth is not important, at least until age 65. The date of birth is not required on a P60 and if it is there that is down to the system the employer is using.
If your daughter advises her employers that they have her date of birth wrong it is not going to make any difference taxwise but if her rate of pay is age related there is a good chance that her employers will realise that they have been overpaying her. They may want their money back and may pay her less in the future.
A moral dilemma rather than a tax problem I think.

See Jimmo this was my first thought too.....

As soon as I discovered the mistake on the P60 it clicked that the Company may well believe that she is 20 instead of 17.

HOWEVER in defence of this , if they DO try to say that she has been receiving the wrong rate of pay since she started her job in September I will ask them to produce 2 things ;

1) The original application she filled in to apply for the job as I have kept a copy of this and the correct date of birth is on the application.

2) A statement of her main terms and condition of employment which should show the rate of pay she should be receiving as the company would need to show that my Daughter KNEW thats she was being paid the incorrect hourly rate and given that although she has worked there since September 2010 and has never been given a statement of terms and conditions they will have a hard job saying she knew her rate of pay was incorrect!

At this minute in time we have not spoken to head office concerning this matter . My Daughter attends a work placement as part of her education and didnt get home until 5pm yesterday by which time head office had closed and so she cannot call them until Monday now.

My Daughter will probably find herself on a lower rate of pay from now on which she will have no objection to , however , the fact that she may well be asked to repay a lot of money for a mistake that was made by head office and something that she had no way of knowing given that she was never told the rate of pay is another matter although if it has to be repaid then it WILL be repaid.