New plaster

jayship

We have had our living room walls and ceiling skimmed and is now ready to be painted. A friend recommended using Leyland Trade Laytex matt emulsion which i believe is formulated for new plasters and has good opacity and is concentrated (pigment) that will hide any hairline cracks which are likely to appear. (past experience).
Feedback and advice will be appreciated.
Thanks

ukbill69

I would on new surface to add water to paint to give first cost and then to other costs when dry without water, then it will apply better.

nordberg

I've just finished a similar room. I used Leyland Trade Matt and added 25% water for the first mist coat. Even diluted, it covered extremely well. I then applied two coats of on undiluted and I got a superb finish. This is the third room I've done this with, the first two were with B&Q Value Emulsion watered down which was rubbish in comparison.

Impressed with Leyland especially as it was so cheap. I've also heard that Dulux Super Matt is excellent for new work.

dave82_2

We used Supermatt watered down as per the instructions on the tub. It covered really well even the mist coats!

It has given a nice finish :-)

barneyg

We did two coats of watered down glidden trade contract matt - found it did an excellent job and with a whole house to do it was a good price too from the local decorator centre

Its actually a nice white too so we used it neat for the final coat on the ceilings and above the picture rails.

The plaster was also left for a couple of months before painting, which might have helped with the fine cracks (I haven't got any yet!)

jayship

My other half wants to paint the ceiling in silk finish for its shine. However i was unable to find Leyland Trade in silk. Any other suggestions please. Would using a different make for the ceiling which is not trade look odd?
Thanks

dave82_2

Make sure you do not use silk or vinyl for the mist coat!

ListysDad

Whoa peeps... A bit of background and 'why'.

A 'mist' coat is watered down paint 1/3 water 2/3 emulsion. It matters not a jot what paint is used so long as it's emulsion. The point of the watering down the paint is to break down the long molecules into smaller ones so they can enter the surface of the plaster and not just sit on the surface.

You must mix the paint and water very very well. You simply cover the new surface (i.e. wet it) but DO NOT look to 'cover' it in a traditional sense i.e. so there are no gaps or whatever. It matters not a jot how it looks as it does the job just perfectly looking cr*p!

The role of the mist coat is to provide a 'join' between the paint and the plaster. If you don't do it then the paint doesn't properly bond with the plaster and just sits on top. Over time it will flake off (if its not vinyl) or peel off in sheets if it is.

Remember, when misting just slap it on and DO NOT worry about what it looks like. Your next two coats will do all the coverage needed and stay up there for good.

HTH :cool2:

JS - Just thought. Only use a reflective paint (gloos down to eggshell) if the surface is perfect. The more reflectivity you have the more those imperfections will leap out at you.

jayship

Thanks to everyone who replied with their suggestions. We have today started painting the mist coat and noticed hairline cracks in several places. Am wondering if they will be covered when the final 2 coats of paint has been applied or are there any other remedial solutions. It is now over 2 weeks since skimming and the wals have completely dried out. The skimming is very smooth finish and professionally done.
Advice please
Thanks

ginvzt

I had some hairline cracks appear in the new plaster, and to make sure that they do not stand out, I bought the polyfilla stick (like glue stick) and used on the cracks. I had a crack appear on the ceiling, so I used the stick there as well. And being paranoid, I also bought a crack-free ceiling paint, which was a real paint to use (very thick).

nickj_2

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