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been thrown a curve ball in my search for a car

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gonzo127
gonzo127 Posts: 4,482 Forumite
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ok i am just after some thoughts on this, but first a little bit of background info for those for can’t remember any of my previous posts

basically i have been looking for a small economical car for a couple of grand narrowed it down to a few cars (clio, C3, C2, fiesta and 206 all diesels) although i did look into the suggestions posted here when looking at the figures of a bigger car i just couldn’t afford to run one for much more than a year or 2

anyways i have been looking around and so far haven’t seen anything that meets my approval (usually too high millage with no service history) which doesn’t surprise me as i am a stickler with my wants and will not part with my money until i am happy.

so my curve ball, my mother and father in law took their car to our normal garage for their MOT (one of the guys there is a friend of the family and has been doing their cars for years) so they happened to mention to him that i was looking for a small diesel car and he turned around and said well i know someone who might be able to help.

so it turns out that a guy who he also helps out has currently got a Clio diesel 05 plate which used to be a driver instructors car, however he has also got another Clio which has been written off but only has 30k on the clock (been told it was a back ender) so basically he said he would put the engine and gear box from the write off into the other Clio so i could have a 05 clio with a engine and gear box which has only done 30k for just over 2k

now although i trust the mechanic i just don’t know the ins and outs of things such as how a 'new' engine would affect the insurance, would it change how the car is looked on by the DVLA, so basically the pro's and con's which could arise from this situation so i would appreciate any thoughts or information you could provide to allow me consider this idea objectively
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  • maninthestreet
    maninthestreet Posts: 16,127 Forumite
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    The change of engine number would have to be reported to the DVLA. Is the 30K engine the same capacity and power output as the exisiting engine??
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  • gonzo127
    gonzo127 Posts: 4,482 Forumite
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    as i understand it yes, i havent actually been to see the car yet as i was looking around another last night and didnt find out about this other potential car till about 7 o'clock when they had closed, but as i understand it they are both 1.5 dci Clio's, although unsure on the BHP of each engine since i know they do the 1.5 dci in 3 different power outputs, 65 80 and 106 i believe, hm i guess thats something to ask about
    Drop a brand challenge
    on a £100 shop you might on average get 70 items save
    10p per product = £7 a week ~ £28 a month
    20p per product = £14 a week ~ £56 a month
    30p per product = £21 a week ~ £84 a month (or in other words one weeks shoping at the new price)
  • birkee
    birkee Posts: 1,933 Forumite
    Modest mileage engine, in a car that has done a lot of miles?
    There is more to a car than the engine.
    Brakes, steering, suspension etc etc. All abused by learners. Kerbing on 3 point turns, emergency stop practice, and so on.

    I wouldn't touch it!
  • Horizon81
    Horizon81 Posts: 1,594 Forumite
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    Sounds like trouble. And clios are renowned for electrical faults so an engine swap is unlikely to help matters.
  • Incyder
    Incyder Posts: 2,016 Forumite
    I won't be owning a french car. I did try it once.
  • DaveF327
    DaveF327 Posts: 1,160 Forumite
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    birkee wrote: »
    Brakes, steering, suspension etc etc. All abused by learners. Kerbing on 3 point turns, emergency stop practice, and so on.

    I wouldn't touch it!
    ..and the rest :p The most tortured parts of a learner car will be the clutch and handbrake cable. While the new engine and gearbox sounds a godsend after a lifetime of learners stalling / labouring the engine violently and crunching reverse at high speeds, there is so much more that will be dropping off the car on a 05 plate, especially if the instructor was crap.
  • Wig
    Wig Posts: 14,139 Forumite
    If it's a straight swap, same engine for same engine it won't need to be reported as a modification. Won't affect value or anything, although you could (not sure about should) report to the DVLA change of engine no. But I didn't when I changed my engine and I'm sure most people wouldn't bother either.

    If it's a different engine it's a modification which would have to be reported to insurers every time you change insurers and can cause hassle getting online quotes.
  • forgotmyname
    forgotmyname Posts: 32,929 Forumite
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    The engine may be from the same model same year etc but manufacturers make little changes during production
    which makes swapping major parts a nightmare.

    I would rather buy a car thats done 100,000+ miles than ones thats had the engine changed. Also be careful with the
    insurance, They may want an engineers report to check the engines fitted properly.
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  • Incyder
    Incyder Posts: 2,016 Forumite
    Repeat: I won't be owning a french car. I did try it once. :rotfl:
  • Kilty_2
    Kilty_2 Posts: 5,818 Forumite
    Incyder wrote: »
    Repeat: I won't be owning a french car. I did try it once. :rotfl:

    1.5 diesel Clios that haven't been abused and aren't on their 2nd engine aren't actually bad cars.
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