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Consequences of unauthorised absence from school
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Schools are not meant to be babysitters! And the inset days everyone keeps referring to were actually originally taken out of the school holidays, NOT in addition to the holidays so pupils are still in school for the same amount of days they are meant to be and have always been.
Excuse me but did I say they were? I am more concerned that the 6 days she is doing are spread out over the month. She is struggling a bit at school at the moment and I dont think having all this time off is helping.0 -
Where do you live that people can be fined after 5 days absence?
where I live, after 3 days unauthorised (if the school notify the attendance service) you will get a knock at the door checking out why the child is off school.
There are lots of children with less than 50% attendance who don't face any real consequences let alone getting fined.
The fines (actually called penalty notices) are for more than 5 days unauthorised such as taking a holiday after being rfused permission. they are not automatic: the school decide to fine and then submit paperwork to the LA attendance service whose legal team look at it .
The process is longwinded and has to be watertight as it goes to magistrates court if the parents do not pay.
The legislation is the Anti social behaviour act 2003 and has only been adopted by some LA.I work in one - a unitary authority in Eastern England- and administer the system in a primary school.
We have no children with attendance below 50% - i would be sacked!0 -
From a teachers point of view it's a pain in the !!!! as well. I don't see one of my year 11 groups for over a month because of the holidays. All my lessons are on a monday and Friday with them (they have double periods on these days)....it's a nightmare when you are trying to finish the stuff they need for their GCSE. ARGH!Reduction in daily mortgage interest since October 23 (new mortgage) - £2.36 July 25
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elisamoose wrote: »The fines (actually called penalty notices) are for more than 5 days unauthorised such as taking a holiday after being rfused permission. they are not automatic: the school decide to fine and then submit paperwork to the LA attendance service whose legal team look at it .
The process is longwinded and has to be watertight as it goes to magistrates court if the parents do not pay.
The legislation is the Anti social behaviour act 2003 and has only been adopted by some LA.I work in one - a unitary authority in Eastern England- and administer the system in a primary school.
We have no children with attendance below 50% - i would be sacked!
That is pretty harsh. I was also speaking as an insider and think we would have more parents prosecuted than not if that was the threshold where I live (which shall remain nameless
) If you always do what you have always done, you will always get what you always got!0 -
pulliptears wrote: »Bit harsh, dont see where stejobeth said she expected that And actually, there is one extra day due to the wedding holiday.
Expected what?
The extra day this year is a one-off!0 -
Excuse me but did I say they were? I am more concerned that the 6 days she is doing are spread out over the month. She is struggling a bit at school at the moment and I dont think having all this time off is helping.
well you need to speak to the school. Our school are going in extra days over the holiday for any children who feel they need extra help.0 -
From a teachers point of view it's a pain in the !!!! as well. I don't see one of my year 11 groups for over a month because of the holidays. All my lessons are on a monday and Friday with them (they have double periods on these days)....it's a nightmare when you are trying to finish the stuff they need for their GCSE. ARGH!
As I have said in another post - if the kids are struggling why not arrange to go in over the holiday period to put on a few extra lessons for them? Just a couple of sessions even, it can make the difference. It's what happens where I work and also the school where my wife works (she has been in 2 days this week to give extra help to students)0 -
ring your local education authority offices and expalin to them, if its playing on your mind.
TBH ds1's school are strict , really strict - a bit OTT IMO.
However, we have had circumstances where ds1's dad has taken him away for the weekend to see his family. Once the school knew we were seperated and he rarely got to see ex's family they readily agreed.
As much as education is v. important they also realise that family relationships - esp where a family has broken down is just as important. They have refused us 1/2 a day to take him to spain but readily agreed to let him have 2 days off to visit paternal grandparents.
Just ensure they are aware its time with dad etc and its an exception, and whilst you dont really like taking him out of school for this trip you feel it would be detrimental to your child if he didnt get the quality time with his dad0 -
its one day - i dont see what the big fuss is about
tell the school office whats happening, then put it in writing to the head teacher
my kids have have several days absence for holidays as my other half is only off during term time
in fact 3 years ago they had a full week off not long after they went back from summer break, we went abroad
the fines etc are really there to deter and punish serial offenders, parents who dont bother ensuring their child is getting a fair go at education, not to stop normal a kid spending an extra day with their dad0 -
As I have said in another post - if the kids are struggling why not arrange to go in over the holiday period to put on a few extra lessons for them? Just a couple of sessions even, it can make the difference. It's what happens where I work and also the school where my wife works (she has been in 2 days this week to give extra help to students)
Oh we do...we've done/are doing 3 days this holiday (which we don't get paid for - it's not part of our contracted hours). However, we can't make the kids come and usually the ones you need to come don't. I wasn't trying to state anything other than the fact that the teachers find it hard work as well as the parents - ok, for different reasons but it's still a pain in the bum.Reduction in daily mortgage interest since October 23 (new mortgage) - £2.36 July 25
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