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how long before the first 100% mortgage to return

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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    A repossession always sells (almost always, anyway) for less than on the open market.

    Plus the bank racks up fees and costs in repossessing.

    So 100% mortgage won't cover the costs.

    But an allowance for losses is factored into all lending. It's still massively profitable.

    Example.

    A bank lends 100 mortgages at 100% LTV of £100K at 5% interest.

    Year one: Interest receivable = £500,000

    One person defaults after paying only 6 months of interest.

    Actual receipts £497,500

    Sale of property nets only £90,000 in a falling market. Bank has lost 10K on that one property.

    Receipts now £487,500 instead of £500,000.

    Lending is no different from insurance in that regard, there will inevitably be losses, but the anticipated loss is factored into the price we all pay for the service.
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  • poppingjay
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    But an allowance for losses is factored into all lending. It's still massively profitable.

    Example.

    A bank lends 100 mortgages at 100% LTV of £100K at 5% interest.

    Year one: Interest receivable = £500,000

    One person defaults after paying only 6 months of interest.

    Actual receipts £497,500

    Sale of property nets only £90,000 in a falling market. Bank has lost 10K on that one property.

    Receipts now £487,500 instead of £500,000.

    Lending is no different from insurance in that regard, there will inevitably be losses, but the anticipated loss is factored into the price we all pay for the service.

    I have to agree with you.... banking is a licence to print money :D

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  • chucky
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    AndyGuil wrote: »
    Giving an unsecured loan for a deposit is not allowed anymore. It's deposit or nothing.
    without knowing the legal ins and outs - an unsecured loan is an unsecured loan, a bank isn't able to put a limit on an unsecured loan amount for a customer.
  • My feeling is that 100% mortgages will be here as soon as it makes sense for the lenders to offer them. probably sooner than some on here think, but later than some on here would hope.

    I have no problems with them in principle. Each mortgage application should be judged on its own merits (or lack of).
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  • AndyGuil
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    edited 9 April 2011 at 11:44PM
    chucky wrote: »
    without knowing the legal ins and outs - an unsecured loan is an unsecured loan, a bank isn't able to put a limit on an unsecured loan amount for a customer.

    They are not allowed to use the loan to fund a mortgage deposit. A bank will not issue the loan to fund the deposit and a loan taken with the intention of using it as a deposit is fraud.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    edited 9 April 2011 at 11:57PM
    AndyGuil wrote: »
    They are not allowed to use the loan to fund a mortgage deposit. A bank will not issue the loan to fund the deposit and a loan taken with the intention of using it as a deposit is fraud.

    Link?

    Source?

    Evidence?

    Because that's a crock of !!!!!!.

    There's nothing illegal or fraudulent about using borrowed money to fund a deposit. So long as your financial position is accurately declared on the application.
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  • AndyGuil
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    edited 10 April 2011 at 12:13AM
    Another discussion on this matter.
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3122892
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/1918445
    A loan obtained for something actually used for a mortgage,
    http://www.mybrief.com/generalcrime.asp?type=63&p=Mortgage%20Fraud

    Don't get me wrong you can have an unsecured loan and a mortgage but not an unsecured loan in order to get a mortgage.
  • B_Blank wrote: »
    Brazil is not the UK.

    Next please. This is getting too easy.

    Who said it was?

    What's getting easy?
  • Who said it was?

    What's getting easy?

    They seem to think that you said it was.

    It's spotting their internet superiority complex that's getting easier.
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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    AndyGuil wrote: »
    Don't get me wrong you can have an unsecured loan and a mortgage but not an unsecured loan in order to get a mortgage.

    Untrue. There is no law saying that deposit monies have to be saved, not borrowed.

    You just can't lie about it to the lender....

    So for example, if I were to loan 50K to my brother for a deposit, and the lender asks about the source of funds, then he can't lie. The lender will take repayment of those funds into account for affordability calculations. But it's not illegal.

    If I say to my brother that he doesn't need to repay the funds until the house is sold in the future, then there is no affordability problem either.
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    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

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