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help - laptop screen probem is driving me dotty!

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  • sho_me_da_money
    sho_me_da_money Posts: 1,679 Forumite
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    edited 6 April 2011 at 1:42PM
    Hammyman wrote: »
    Yes, remove and reseat the RAM - that is pretty much the only thing you can do fault finding wise without sending it off.. You can't change the graphics card as its an integral part of the mainboard. There is a trick that can be used to confirm it is the GPU (I'll give sho_me_da_money the chance to show they have a clue by explaining what that trick is) but unfortunately it requires access to the chip and removal of its heatsink which means you're at the point where you might as well just change the board anyway from a labour point of view.

    "Unfortunately it requires access to the chip and removal of the heatsink"

    With no disrespect to the OP, suggesting a trick like this is likely to result in further component damage. Your BTEC technical expertise to even suggest this to a regular system user is absurd.
  • Hammyman
    Hammyman Posts: 9,913 Forumite
    edited 6 April 2011 at 3:10PM
    "Unfortunately it requires access to the chip and removal of the heatsink"

    With no disrespect to the OP, suggesting a trick like this is likely to result in further component damage. Your BTEC technical expertise to even suggest this to a regular system user is absurd.

    I'll take that as an admission that you don't actually know what the trick is despite your protestations that your bits of paper in networking and operating systems makes you competent in hardware.

    I suppose thats the difference between a real engineer with experience and a paper one.....

    As to removing heatsinks, yes its within the expertise of anyone who can wield a screwdriver if the access is easy enough. When I've removed CPU heatsinks to replace the thermal compound on those with blocked heatsinks, customers who've watched me start out by saying they can't do it and finish by commenting "is that all there is to it?"
  • Hammyman
    Hammyman Posts: 9,913 Forumite
    Handbagman,

    You have had 23 years of experience with a degree that is just as old. The material you covered in your time isn't worth the crumb of crap of my shoe today.
    That would be true for someone who doesn't stay in the industry however its impossible not to keep up to date.

    I am not going to waste a breath on a PC repairer. The most technical thing you have to do is upgrade a RAM or replace a HDD.

    Peace :money:

    This one happens to be an electronics engineer that can fault find to component level. Maybe coming up against someone who isn't impressed by your bits of paper and has probably been in electronics and IT hardware for longer than you have been alive has unnerved you. You certainly seem to now be trying to wriggle out of it.
  • sho_me_da_money
    sho_me_da_money Posts: 1,679 Forumite
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    Hammyman wrote: »
    I'll take that as an admission that you don't actually know what the trick is despite your protestations that your bits of paper in networking and operating systems makes you competent in hardware.

    I suppose thats the difference between a real engineer with experience and a paper one.....

    As to removing heatsinks, yes its within the expertise of anyone who can wield a screwdriver if the access is easy enough. When I've removed CPU heatsinks to replace the thermal compound on those with blocked heatsinks, customers who've watched me start out by saying they can't do it and finish by commenting "is that all there is to it?"


    Alot of things are within the expertise of people - changing RAM, CPU, Heatsinks, Cards, PSUs etc.

    But it's one thing seeing and saying it vs. doing it. How many times have you heard someone attempt to change a component and goofing their entire system because they thought it was easy? Many things can go wrong - shorting something, over application of thermal compound, not seating the ram in properly etc etc.

    Removing CPU heatsinks varies system to system - some easy, some hard. If you haven't had experience with this particular system board then common sense would tell you to advise the user of the less risky approach and have him consult a techie.

    Hell, I have seen people attempt to swap monitors and encounter problems. and you're suggesting he tries to access his system board......

    Don't be a fool, go back to school.
  • debitcardmayhem
    debitcardmayhem Posts: 13,181 Forumite
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    Hammyman wrote: »
    That would .....
    Alot of.......

    Guys take it outside, the sun is shining so I guess that's a good excuse too. That is 1 Pint of cider from the blue corner and 1 from the red corner. Of course I could be accused of In Cider Dealing ...... chill, lets help the OP.
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