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  • LOLAF
    LOLAF Posts: 252 Forumite
    alezzandro wrote: »

    In any case, the system works quite well because users tend to accumulate numerous transactions and, in the long term, a sort of "wisdom of the crowds" emerges to describe the nature of a user. In other words, it eliminates the border effects.

    Now, how many houses a person buys and sell in their life? Whatever the number is, it is too small to have statistical relevance and it is too easy to abuse it, volountarily or not.

    In short, it cannot work.

    At least it will highlight the "serial" offenders....

    As for the rest of them - I agree it's not a perfect solution. Seriously - would welcome any ideas how this can be improved...
  • googler
    googler Posts: 16,103 Forumite
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    How does someone become a 'serial' offender, given the limited number of times the average person moves home?
  • googler
    googler Posts: 16,103 Forumite
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    LOLAF wrote: »
    As for the rest of them - I agree it's not a perfect solution. Seriously - would welcome any ideas how this can be improved...

    As to how what can be improved? The housebuying system (you already have some suggestions here), or your half-baked name and shame idea?

    I'll ask again - if you name and shame someone, how will we know you are telling the truth?
  • mrs-h_3
    mrs-h_3 Posts: 109 Forumite
    LOLAF wrote: »
    I DO think my seller did something wrong. She negotiated with 3 buyers - we were the top bidder and she told us that if we improve our offer and pay her X the property is ours. Once we agreed she could have checked with the other buyers and if they would have agreed to pay more I wouldn't have said a word. It is her right to maximise the price.

    BUT...

    To continue negotiation with the other buyers after ACCEPTING our offer at the price she stated in the first place as her target price is not acceptable! If she would have been so honest she would have approached us asking us to improve our offer when she got the better one. She decided not to give us a chance and told us that if we still want to buy we need to better our offer compared to the other buyer. We later learned that she gave us the option of improving the price AGAIN after she accepted the other buyer's offer.

    This is not the way an honest seller conducts oneself!!

    Yes but a house isn't sold until contracts exchanged etc. I appreciate your predicament and frustration, but the seller has every right to get a better price and in this market who can blame them really....
    Their house is obviously one of the lucky few which seems to be in demand, if you want it that much then up the offer, but be prepared they could do it again. I would put it down to experience and look elsewhere
  • LOLAF
    LOLAF Posts: 252 Forumite
    googler wrote: »
    How does someone become a 'serial' offender, given the limited number of times the average person moves home?

    If a seller accepts several offers on his property but keeps changing his minding moving forward with better offers
    OR
    Buyers that keep putting offers and change their minding having found better/cheaper places.
  • suited-aces
    suited-aces Posts: 1,938 Forumite
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    I might just "name and shame" someone I don't like who has done nothing, how would you stop that?
    bump de bump
    I'm not bad at golf, I just get better value for money when I take more shots!
  • LOLAF wrote: »
    I DO think my seller did something wrong. She negotiated with 3 buyers - we were the top bidder and she told us that if we improve our offer and pay her X the property is ours. Once we agreed she could have checked with the other buyers and if they would have agreed to pay more I wouldn't have said a word. It is her right to maximise the price.

    BUT...

    To continue negotiation with the other buyers after ACCEPTING our offer at the price she stated in the first place as her target price is not acceptable! If she would have been so honest she would have approached us asking us to improve our offer when she got the better one. She decided not to give us a chance and told us that if we still want to buy we need to better our offer compared to the other buyer. We later learned that she gave us the option of improving the price AGAIN after she accepted the other buyer's offer.

    This is not the way an honest seller conducts oneself!!
    Unfortunately not illegal but I would not act like this and would not deal with anyone who did - but would be tempted to offer the asking price or whatever and then just leave it and do nothing, see how they like being messed about. But then again why stoop to their level, forget it and move on.
  • googler
    googler Posts: 16,103 Forumite
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    googler wrote: »
    I'll ask again - if you name and shame someone, how will we know you are telling the truth?

    LOLAF, you still seem to be evading this question.....
  • suited-aces
    suited-aces Posts: 1,938 Forumite
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    And mine...
    I'm not bad at golf, I just get better value for money when I take more shots!
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    LOLAF wrote: »
    Seriously - would welcome any ideas how this can be improved...

    Seriously - lobby your MP to change the system. Get everyone you know to do the same. Start a facebook campaign, get involved, make a difference.

    The Scottish system proves that a better solution is already working well in the UK.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
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