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  • jenniewb
    jenniewb Posts: 12,842 Forumite
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    Be interested to see how you get on: I know for me that if I leave it too long between meals I overeat when I do eat, but like you say, each to their own. If you eat once a day your doing the diet already, no? Just cutting out the sugar.

    Good luck though.
  • ellay864
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    I don't slavishly follow it, but I go along with a lot of the principles of Paul McKenna, who basically says eat only when you're hungry. You don't eat a big meal just so you can go a 6 hours stretch. You eat what feels comfortable at that time, stop when you're full even if that means leaving some on your plate (it won't make any more African kiddies die if you do!). If you start feeling hungry between meals drink water. Often people think they're hungry but really they need hydrating. If you still feel hungry after the water then have a snack - but again keep it moderate, a piece of fruit rather than shoving down a huge bag of crisps. And then eat again when you're hungry.
    Occasionally it takes a bit of juggling if you know you're going out for a meal but it really does make a lot of sense. You don't weigh, you don't calorie count, you don't calculate points; you just eat sensibly when you need to. He also has a hunger scale on a 1-10 ranging from feeling light headed and shaky with hunger to nauseously stuffed. You should generally aim to be between levels 3 (fairly hungry) and 7 (full) and not get into those other extremes. A work colleague who has broken more diets than she cares to remember has lost 4 st doing this and looks fantastic!
  • jenniewb
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    ellay864 wrote: »
    I don't slavishly follow it, but I go along with a lot of the principles of Paul McKenna, who basically says eat only when you're hungry. You don't eat a big meal just so you can go a 6 hours stretch. You eat what feels comfortable at that time, stop when you're full even if that means leaving some on your plate (it won't make any more African kiddies die if you do!). If you start feeling hungry between meals drink water. Often people think they're hungry but really they need hydrating. If you still feel hungry after the water then have a snack - but again keep it moderate, a piece of fruit rather than shoving down a huge bag of crisps. And then eat again when you're hungry.
    Occasionally it takes a bit of juggling if you know you're going out for a meal but it really does make a lot of sense. You don't weigh, you don't calorie count, you don't calculate points; you just eat sensibly when you need to. He also has a hunger scale on a 1-10 ranging from feeling light headed and shaky with hunger to nauseously stuffed. You should generally aim to be between levels 3 (fairly hungry) and 7 (full) and not get into those other extremes. A work colleague who has broken more diets than she cares to remember has lost 4 st doing this and looks fantastic!

    Don't you just hate when people say that if your dieting/leaving food? "there are starving people in Africa..etc", as if leaving food behind is directly going to affect them! Infact if we all just bought and ate what we needed and no more, stores would be forced not to over-stock, we'd not remain one of the greediest nations for obtaining them, shipping them over (from places like Africa) and then throwing much of it away! Anyway!! Rant over :cool:

    Think the Paul McKenna diet sounds like a really good idea, its that trick of learning when you are and when your not hungry thats so hard to work out, think once your there thats much of the hard work done! Its so easy to become swayed by moods and emotions or even tempted by what something looks like in packaging rather then asking yourself if you actually need something! I'm trying to get to the point where I eat when I'm hungry and don't when I'm not but a long history of EDs and its a bit of a battle!
  • nzmegs
    nzmegs Posts: 1,055 Forumite
    it is important to realise that we are all addicts when it comes to certain foods. We all know that there a some types of food which we cannot resist and we find it hard to walk away from them. Now if you were an alcoholic you would accept (assuming you wanted to stop drinking) that you could not have just one drink and stay on the wagon. So when it comes to your diet you need accept there are some foods you simply cannot eat. You will always say no to them and never eat them (at least until you feel you have real control over them).

    I have made that decision over meat and have been fully vegetarian for 6 months now. So making the same choice to not eat chocolate should be just as easy - right? Well no. I am addicted to sugar and fat, not to meat. Giving up meat was easy. Giving up everything else will be harder - much harder.

    I bear in mind that these food offer me no nutritional value, they make me feel bad and they don't help me lose weight. they don't deserve a place in my diet. each time i want to eat these fods I simply tell myself I don't eat those food now. I am not someone who eats chocolate or junk food anymore. I am identifying as the person I rally want to be and so far i am resisting. Simply admitting to my addiction has made this process of thought much easier.

    Hope this can help you stick to your not snacking rule. Just admit you are an addict and strive every day to not be one. Society, the food industry, your friends, the media and anyone who is still an addict won't make it easy but do it for you and you will get there.
  • Bella79
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    Hi all,

    Well so far its been a good day, ive eaten:


    Branflakes with semi milk and fresh pinapple


    wholemeal salad sandwich- lettece,onion,tom,cucumbers , banana

    Chicken breast, with rice, and roasted veg-toms,courgette,mushrooms,onions,peppers
    grapes


    And i have to say i feel pretty full and feel like ive eaten quite healthy !
  • jenniewb
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    nzmegs wrote: »
    it is important to realise that we are all addicts when it comes to certain foods. We all know that there a some types of food which we cannot resist and we find it hard to walk away from them. Now if you were an alcoholic you would accept (assuming you wanted to stop drinking) that you could not have just one drink and stay on the wagon. So when it comes to your diet you need accept there are some foods you simply cannot eat. You will always say no to them and never eat them (at least until you feel you have real control over them).

    I have made that decision over meat and have been fully vegetarian for 6 months now. So making the same choice to not eat chocolate should be just as easy - right? Well no. I am addicted to sugar and fat, not to meat. Giving up meat was easy. Giving up everything else will be harder - much harder.

    I bear in mind that these food offer me no nutritional value, they make me feel bad and they don't help me lose weight. they don't deserve a place in my diet. each time i want to eat these fods I simply tell myself I don't eat those food now. I am not someone who eats chocolate or junk food anymore. I am identifying as the person I rally want to be and so far i am resisting. Simply admitting to my addiction has made this process of thought much easier.

    Hope this can help you stick to your not snacking rule. Just admit you are an addict and strive every day to not be one. Society, the food industry, your friends, the media and anyone who is still an addict won't make it easy but do it for you and you will get there.

    Have you read the book "An End to Overeating"? it really changed my outlook on my eating and what I ate, its worth a read as I used to think the way you did too until I read it.
  • nzmegs
    nzmegs Posts: 1,055 Forumite
    Hi Jennie, How did you guess? Yes I have read this book and it was helpful for me as well. It really made me see that I am not necessarily to blame for my addiction, but that only i can make the changes required to get away from the addiction. I recommend this book to everyone fighting against the everyday battles we have with food. in my case it is sugar and only going cold turkey has helped me. I don't think i can ever safely go back to eating it - but that is no great loss - is it? i don't trust my reactions when i eat sugar and my body hates me eating it.

    Bella, it sounds like you are doing really well! My regular meals lately have been something along these lines. Porridge with baanana for breakfast, salad with avocado and falafel for lunch and a vege chilli or tofu stir fry for dinner. I haven't been hungry either. Not missing sugar yet - but then easter is around the corner! How will you cope with that?
  • Bella79
    Bella79 Posts: 1,197 Forumite
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    Hi,

    I will def check out that book, regarding easter, hmmm tricky, i think if i tell myself no chocolate i will feel deprived and prob binge, So im going to allow myself something on easter sunday, im cooking the dinner for all the family, then they will all be sticking into their easter eggs afters, i think i will have a small creme egg of somthing along those line.
  • jenniewb
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    nzmegs wrote: »
    Hi Jennie, How did you guess? Yes I have read this book and it was helpful for me as well. It really made me see that I am not necessarily to blame for my addiction, but that only i can make the changes required to get away from the addiction. I recommend this book to everyone fighting against the everyday battles we have with food. in my case it is sugar and only going cold turkey has helped me. I don't think i can ever safely go back to eating it - but that is no great loss - is it? i don't trust my reactions when i eat sugar and my body hates me eating it.

    Bella, it sounds like you are doing really well! My regular meals lately have been something along these lines. Porridge with baanana for breakfast, salad with avocado and falafel for lunch and a vege chilli or tofu stir fry for dinner. I haven't been hungry either. Not missing sugar yet - but then easter is around the corner! How will you cope with that?


    Lol! Great minds eh?! The reason I mentioned it was because you mentioned an addiction as though it was your weak spot, the book though was very good at explaining just how food is created with lab rats and trying to create foods which directly enhance dopamine (the pleasure seeking hormone) in the brains of rats. Once they had managed to find a food which created the greatest degree of dopamine (among other pleasure type hormones) in the brain they knew they were on to a good thing: the scientists were more interested in creating a food where people found it hard to say "no" rather then even costs or nutrition. Its not you thats addicted alone, its food that has been created for exactly that purpose: to lure people in and keep them buying.

    Do not feel like its your weak spot alone because it isn't, its the fact you are human and not a food scientist that is your only fault! These foods have been created to hook people up. But forwarned is forarmed and knowing what the threats to self control with food are can only be a good thing I think!
  • nzmegs
    nzmegs Posts: 1,055 Forumite
    Jennie - you are up very late!! Yes the addiction is a worldwide problem and getting worse in those countries which have resisted processed foods until lately. Funny how the west was supposed to be the greatest place on earth to live and we are so good at providing food for everyone that we are killing ourselves. Something tells me that so-called poorer countries will have the last laugh.

    One point in the book which made me laugh was that McDonalds only have salads on the menu because it makes them look like they are trying to do the right thing. it improves their image. they have no interest in whether they sell or not. This came from an ex-McDonalds executive.

    Bella, I expect I will simply pretend easter isn't happening. I also have a birthday next week and need to make sure cake and chocolates are not on the menu. At the moment and for the foreseeable future i have to avoid all sugars. I would rather treat myself to a new item of clothing for my shrinking body!! Even my kids aren't complaining about the lack of biscuits in the cupboards. But they will get and easter egg - don't worry I am not that mean!
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