As The Workhouse Approaches....How To Do Everything To Avoid It, the Old Style Way

greenbee

HariboJunkie wrote: »

And they in turn have their critics in the conservation field. It really is a minefield.
I don't tend to listen to scaremongering or badly researched "facts" about food safety but I do research what I eat if there is any doubt about it. It's still personal choice though and I'd never lecture anyone else who wanted to eat Basa/cobbler/whatever the retailer chooses to call it.

I know I've come to the conclusion that I'm always going to have to compromise. I buy most of my fruit and veg from the local organic farm shop, most of the meat I buy is direct from the source (but who's to say that's necessarily the best option), I use the local shop rather than supermarkets for stuff like yogurt, milk, rice milk etc, and a health food shop for pulses, dried fruit, grains etc. but I can't always be sure about whether i've made the set choice. However, it does sometimes stop me buying things altogether if there is no choice acceptable for me. For example, if there are no organic eggs I might buy free range, but if there are no free range I'll simply go without. There are always alternatives.

JIL

ceridwen wrote: »

Errr..um....agh...yuk! about sums up my reaction to what is stated there. I know I mustnt serve quorn to anyone else - because I'm aware there are a noticeable number of peeps allergic to it (me - I'm allergic to nothing whatsoever - so, as possessor of a cast-iron stomach personally I wouldnt know...).

A quick read of this article to me would seem to indicate that it IS a Soylent Green type foodstuff....so I should be going off and "getting my act in gear" not to buy this again then...

Oh well...its not exactly cheap anyways...apart from those "flog off packets of quorn mince at el cheapo prices" at intervals that we get...so I guess its no Big Miss...:cool:

i stopped eating so much quorn when i had a thought that it was like a vege processed ready meal. Nowadays i quiet like curries with lentils and things in them and i am quiet partial to paneer.

someone asked on here recently how to make cheese and paneer is really easy to make, (loads of info on you tube) and another way to use up extra milk although it does not melt as other cheese does so it is nice in lots of vege dishes. I had it in a vege restaurant where it had been made into a tikka and served on a jacket potato with some raita and it was lovely.

heres a nice paneer recipe http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/1059/spiced-paneer

redlady_1

I had absolutely no idea about this fish. This has got to be on a par with battery chickens - if not worse given what they are injected with!

ginnyknit

Thanks smileyt, I had a sleep this afternoon too, seemed the best option as it was tooo hot, not complaining we need a bit of sun, just glad I have retired! So my toms are safe for now, thank goodness, I have poured love and attention on them and even have then inside the house - I hate the smell of the plants! Off to Mums tomorrow (hoping Oh is well enough) as she has bagged lots of bargains for me - 82 year old personal shopper :rotfl: And she is looking forward to seeing DGS walking as DD is coming with us.

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I am horrified after hearing about basa!! oh dear oh dear and I am sickened at how this fish was pushed onto us consumers. The upside is that I have only eaten it twice and thanks to mse, I am now aware. I found this site while googling basa and there is lots of interest on it as well as good topics for discussion

http://www.dietmindspirit.org/about/

It`ll take me ages to look around the site but it is def going into my favorites

re the blight, we had a full smith period and I have destroyed 2 tomatoes that were freckly, just in case. It is such a potch getting covers on everything but blight kicks off when the spores land on wet leaves so I am trying to avoid that situation. I am back and forth with covers but my 28, now 26 tomato plants are mostly laden with fruit and it`ll be devastating if I lose them. I cut the leaves off below the first truss to avoid splashing and also cut some leaves so that the fruit is airy and exposed to the light. It is so much hastle this year, next year I am only growing them under cover and I`ll keep them short enough to fit under my pop ups

redlady_1

I have just read that Kittie and found another one too which I have just read out to the OH over the phone. He just couldnt believe what he was hearing. I am really funny about fish and like this because it doesnt have bones and isnt too "fishy". I loved the basa we buy from Morrisons and OH bought me a bag from Aldi. At this point I am too concerned to see where it comes from!http://talk.onevietnam.org/cause-of-death-consumption-of-basa-fish/ Linky for you

suzid

Oh for heavens sake. Just when I've found a fish I really like I read the links and never want to eat it again. :mad: Yuk!!

HariboJunkie

Before I get the blame for bringing down the aquaculture industry in Vietnam, the WWf lists the following as ways to ensure you are eating pangasius that is safe and sustainable;

"Purchase pangasius traceable to the pond they were grown in.
• Choose fish tested to be free of potentially harmful chemical and drug
residues.
• Buy from farms that
- employ water treatment methods and avoid direct discharge of
effluents into the surrounding environment
- grow in areas where pangasius is indigenous (e.g., the Mekong delta)
- adhere, at minimum, to legal requirements for where and how to site
farms" (taken from Fact sheet about what to look for when buying farmed pangasius)

I suppose we just have to check with the retailer.

scottishminnie

I think my imagination must be far too vivid. The first time I saw Vietnamese River Cobbler (in Tesco I think) I had a vision of a manky brown river with drains etc emptying into it . You couldn't have paid me to eat it. I know it's perhaps not a rational reaction but I like to think my fish have lived in clean water, ate proper fish food and lived happy lives before they end up on my plate.

I'm not sure why, and I'll make my apologies now in case I upset or offend anyone as that's not my intention, but the thought of eating things from the far east makes me uneasy. It's maybe niave to think that food imported from European/Australian/North American countries has met rigorous standards and the far East hasn't but it's just a feeling I can't shake off so won't buy food products from there.

Just been channel surfing and noticed a trailer on QVC for Sodastream - gee did that bring back memories! Mostly of ghastly tasting concentrate and not so fizzy juice. I'm amazed that these are still going strong as I seem to remember the replacement gas cylinders were pricey. My mum used to restrict us to one every six weeks and once we had used it up we had to wait because there were so expensive.

Not a huge amount of money saving on my front today although hubby did build my cold frame (v pleased with him) so tomorrow night I will sow some lettuce seeds and wait (very impatiently).

For those suffering in the heatwave - we may moan and girn about the weather up here but you can bet we would be wailing just as hard if we were sweltering like you are so I feel for you. I absolutely hate the feeling of being sweaty and harassed before I even get to work so I wouldn't swap you right now.

lizzyb1812

Shame about the quorn - Ceridwen's posts prompted me to look into it as although I haven't had it for ages it does go on special offer quite a lot and I have been considering it recently as an alternative protein source. Oh well, I'll carry on sticking to non/lightly processed food and stay away from frankenfoods.

On a different subject I decided not to buy the gadget I'd been after recently. I wanted it but didn't need it and remembered some posts where calculating how long you'd have to work to earn the money to buy "stuff" was a good way to make a buying decision. I'm not working at the moment - living off my savings/wits - but I have calculated how much I need to live on over a year and thus a rate for a day - this thing was going to cost about a day's living costs, ie it would cut my hard-earned holiday from working by a day. Just not worth it.

But I did have a result today as well. Due to my mistiming re sowing lettuce/salad leaves in succession I ran out of salad leaves when that was what on my meal plan for lunch. Walked to the Co-op - which in itself was a huge effort in 30 degree temperatures - only to find lettuce was £1-19 :eek: Yikes! Saw some half price carrots and had a lightbulb moment. I could use them in my meal plan this week and could grate some and have them instead of lettuce in my salad. 36p for carrots instead of £1-19 for lettuce, and the salad was lovely :T