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As The Workhouse Approaches....How To Do Everything To Avoid It, the Old Style Way

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  • mardatha
    mardatha Posts: 15,612 Forumite
    I dont bloody care what credentials or backing it has as long as it tastes nice and keeps me alive.
    Ok so I'm a BAD PERSON. I'm too old and ratty to CARE. ;)
  • HariboJunkie
    HariboJunkie Posts: 7,740 Forumite
    edited 27 June 2011 at 8:18PM
    mardatha wrote: »
    I dont bloody care what credentials or backing it has as long as it tastes nice and keeps me alive.
    Ok so I'm a BAD PERSON. I'm too old and ratty to CARE. ;)

    You're not a bad person :D but it really isn't a very nice thing to eat imo and I'd hate to see you eating something pumped full of toxins.

    I hope no one thinks I'm preaching about River cobbler. I just don't like how it has sneaked under most peoples' radar and well intentioned people are eating it without reading up on the facts. Regardless of your opinion of the WWF, a quick google of pangasius will reveal plenty.

    Farmed fish in the UK are reared to VERY high environmental criteria. They really don't swim in their own excrement or chemicals. It is a massively regulated industry and no one in aquaculture can get away with bending the rules. Farmed fish in the uk ARE sustainable and my personal feeling is that I'd prefer to eat them than to deplete wild stocks.
  • ceridwen
    ceridwen Posts: 11,547 Forumite
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    edited 27 June 2011 at 8:25PM
    Certainly no disrespect whatsoever implied to the WWF. As far as I am aware - they DO tell it like it is.:D

    i'm just a bit "tarnished" from personal experiences some whiles back where there WAS "money on the table" offered to "buy" an organisation I was in. We turned it down:D:rotfl::D:rotfl:...so I am aware that there are wealthy peeps and/or organisations out to "buy" ethical organisations and they will then try to "turn" them :(.

    So - full congrats to the WWF if they have remained "objective" - as I know from experience that that is not at all easy to do.:T
  • JIL
    JIL Posts: 8,835 Forumite
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    ceridwen wrote: »
    Found the article re the "engineered meat":

    now - heads off to finish dinner thinking "Wonder if I should give up quorn? Is that a "just one of those things" experiment in engineering food - or does it have the same agenda? If it does have a "feed the world" agenda - then I really should give up buying it on principle".

    Does anyone know if quorn was invented on a "fake food - to help feed the world agenda" or no? I DO wonder - and if its a sorta Soylent Green type scenario - then I had better give up buying it I guess....

    I remember watching an American tv programme a few years ago about the production of quorn and it was not a pleasant sight, having said that i do eat it but have eaten a lot less of it recently.
    i dont know how you feel about the wiki site but this is quiet interesting reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorn
  • redlady_1
    redlady_1 Posts: 1,601 Forumite
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    Er, sorry to jump in here but someone has just mentioned my favourite fish - basa. Please, what the hell am I eating??!!!
  • ginnyknit
    ginnyknit Posts: 3,718 Forumite
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    Mardatha, hope the weather improves soon for you then you may feel better. Its like living in eternal winter for you isn't it.

    Just been to Mr t and got some baby bath 5p and baby lotion same price, giving some to mum for using as handwash and the lotion for her legs. Not a whoopsie in sight, I think I will give up on Mr T, Morrisons Sunday seems best and the odd visit to Mr S.

    Ok I have been wondering where river cobbler suddenly came from, think I will have a re -read and find out whats going on with it.

    Smileyt have you had any warnings of blight in Manchester? Am getting worried as I lost 30 tomato plants last year and am dreading a repeat.
    Clearing the junk to travel light
    Saving every single penny.
    I will get my caravan
  • greenbee
    greenbee Posts: 17,784 Forumite
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    I like tofu, but quorn really doesn't appeal... I'd rather just eat a mushroom :p

    The Marine Stewarship Council have a certification scheme for sustainable fish.

    Having just received this month's copy of Ethical Consumer, I'm once again resigned to the fact that consumption is generally unethical... It's a generally a question of making the least worst choice.
  • ceridwen
    ceridwen Posts: 11,547 Forumite
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    JIL wrote: »
    I remember watching an American tv programme a few years ago about the production of quorn and it was not a pleasant sight, having said that i do eat it but have eaten a lot less of it recently.
    i dont know how you feel about the wiki site but this is quiet interesting reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorn

    Errr..um....agh...yuk! about sums up my reaction to what is stated there. I know I mustnt serve quorn to anyone else - because I'm aware there are a noticeable number of peeps allergic to it (me - I'm allergic to nothing whatsoever :D - so, as possessor of a cast-iron stomach personally I wouldnt know...).

    A quick read of this article to me would seem to indicate that it IS a Soylent Green type foodstuff....so I should be going off and "getting my act in gear" not to buy this again then...

    Oh well...its not exactly cheap anyways...apart from those "flog off packets of quorn mince at el cheapo prices" at intervals that we get...so I guess its no Big Miss...:cool:
  • HariboJunkie
    HariboJunkie Posts: 7,740 Forumite
    greenbee wrote: »
    The Marine Stewarship Council have a certification scheme for sustainable fish.

    .

    And they in turn have their critics in the conservation field. It really is a minefield. :(
    I don't tend to listen to scaremongering or badly researched "facts" about food safety but I do research what I eat if there is any doubt about it. It's still personal choice though and I'd never lecture anyone else who wanted to eat Basa/cobbler/whatever the retailer chooses to call it.
  • smileyt_2
    smileyt_2 Posts: 1,240 Forumite
    ginnyknit wrote: »
    Smileyt have you had any warnings of blight in Manchester? Am getting worried as I lost 30 tomato plants last year and am dreading a repeat.

    No, not yet. I got one earlier in the year so I must still be on Blightwatch's contact list. I keep expecting a text of a blight alert but, touch wood, nothing yet. I've just been on the blightwatch website and logged in, and although we've had Smith conditions, there have apparently been no full Smith periods for this area in June. Let's hope it continues - I lost all my tomatoes to blight last year too and was gutted. It's soul destroying, isn't it, especially when you've nursed them from the beginning of the year from seed!

    Thank goodness it's a lot cooler here this evening. I spent the afternoon sleeping with the dogs as it was so hot we were all wiped out, and when we woke up and I poked my head out of the door, the temperature had dropped considerably. It's 17 degrees here now, as opposed to the way too high 27 or 28 degrees it was when we went to sleep. I can sleep for England so it doesn't matter that I slept this afternoon, I will still sleep tonight. Nothing really OS or money-saving to report today, except to say that my raspberry jam is really delicious and I don't think it will be making it as far as Christmas hampers :rotfl:

    ETA re fish or engineered meat - once again I give thanks that I am vegan!! I know there are still issues around rainforest soya, GM veg and pesticides, but it does cut out a lot of the 'consuming' problems!
    Aspire not to have more but to be more.
    Oscar Romero

    Still trying to be frugal...
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