Selling Tix For Events thru sellers legally

antioola

Annisele wrote: »

I agree with the people saying that they're less likely to buy if commission is paid. And if I had your event "shoved" into my face, I'd probably shove it right back...

Well that is not going to be public knowledge.

I agree with your last point. I will put some adverts out there for it.

liam8282

antioola wrote: »

That's not a bad idea, but it doesn't really shove the event in people's faces. just bc they have the tickets to sell doesn't mean they'll sell any.

I need somewhere that will actively thrust the tickets out there.

If it is a worthwhile cause and people actively support the charity, they should have the enthusiasm required to sell the tickets.

This would be much better than somebody who knows nothing about the charity shoving tickets in your face, trying to force you to buy them.

For example if I was interested, the first thing I would ask is what is the event in aid of, where does the money go.....

Reply from one of your ticket sellers - "I dunno, but I get a quid a ticket, so buy one"

antioola wrote: »

Also all the main charities pay people, please get over it and stop bringing it up in this thread. thanks.

Yes I do know that. Which is exactly why I would not give money to certain charities who I know have people on very healthy salaries running them.

Even worse though, would be a person off the street organising a small event and then paying somebody to sell tickets because they cannot be bothered to do it themselves, or put the effort in getting the event noticed and out there.

You are not a main charity, you are organinising a small charity music event, you are not Bob Geldoff. :rotfl:

Are you actually trying to raise money for charity, or are you just trying to promote an event for some other personal interest. If you are prepared to pay staff, are you also going to be paying yourself expenses, or paying your band to play, etc?

jexygirl

Thank you for editting out the insulting and rude comments in your first reply to me, it is appreciated.
Jex

antioola

I find your post quite disturbingly inaccurate and patronising, deliberately so in a trolling manner so i will address it point by point, and why that has led me to add you to my ignore list as a user.

Horace wrote: »

It is extremely easy to sell tickets and get publicity especially for music events.

It is not easy to sell tickets for an event with local acts of negligible fame as you get for small local charities who do not want to pay acts of national fame bc it would be interpreted as wasting the funds, much in the same way as taking expenses is, etc.

Attendance is only guaranteed if you are one of the local established pub or club night sin the area. Publicity is easy to obtain but does not guarantee attendance in anyway, shape or form.

As you know I already work in event management and until recently I managed two rock bands as well - I never had any problems in selling tickets or getting the necessary publicity for events, I never had to pay someone to sell the tickets either.

This is blatant incendiary material designed to troll so I won't address it other than by pointing it out.

have you heard of social networking - it is a great way to promote activities for free - you will need to put some time and effort into it but it brings rewards.

More patronising. Everybody uses facebook but it doesn't guarantee anything in terms of attendance. Someone saying they are coming to an event does not translate as them actually coming. I know this from experience of seeing people putting themselves down as attending a commercial events company multiple events, talking to that person at one of our events and finding they put themselves down as attending as "it's so trendy to be seen to go to them right now" and she didn't go bc she didn't have to, it was enough to be attending on facebook, wham, she looks cool and she didn't even go!

fact is, social network guarantees more awareness. Awareness again does not translate into ticket sales.

Shoving tickets into someone's face isn't going to win you any sales. You need to cultivate your target audience, create a need and the tickets will sell, go in with a bad attitude then you will sell nothing and your event will flop.

We do cultivate an audience with giveaways and crafting mailing list, this takes lots of time and is always a work in progress. just slamming people's names down onto mailing lists means nothing, as someone who has seen the failure of local protest groups who actively guilt trip people into signing a mailing list i can attest that those people ignore the events in the future.

When someone gives constructive advice, please do not fling it back in their face. A lot of that seems to go on with people who want advice but when they don't get the advice they want to hear they throw their rattles out of the pram.

more baiting.

Off to the ignore list with you!

thank you to all the other people who added to this conversation! xx

antioola

jexygirl wrote: »

Thank you for editting out the insulting and rude comments in your first reply to me, it is appreciated.
Jex

i'm sorry about that, Horace was being antagonistic and it got to me.

MsHoarder

antioola wrote: »

It is not easy to sell tickets for an event with local acts of negligible fame as you get for small local charities who do not want to pay acts of national fame bc it would be interpreted as wasting the funds, much in the same way as taking expenses is, etc.

Attendance is only guaranteed if you are one of the local established pub or club night sin the area. Publicity is easy to obtain but does not guarantee attendance in anyway, shape or form.

Possibly if you can't get attendance your problem is not the ticket sales but the lack of appeal of a night watching "local acts of negligible fame"? There are better ways to sell this like a night of dancing with live music or similar. If there isn't an audience no amount of paying individuals to do direct sales will work.

Horace

antioola wrote: »

I find your post quite disturbingly inaccurate and patronising, deliberately so in a trolling manner so i will address it point by point, and why that has led me to add you to my ignore list as a user.



It is not easy to sell tickets for an event with local acts of negligible fame as you get for small local charities who do not want to pay acts of national fame bc it would be interpreted as wasting the funds, much in the same way as taking expenses is, etc.

Attendance is only guaranteed if you are one of the local established pub or club night sin the area. Publicity is easy to obtain but does not guarantee attendance in anyway, shape or form.



This is blatant incendiary material designed to troll so I won't address it other than by pointing it out.


More patronising. Everybody uses facebook but it doesn't guarantee anything in terms of attendance. Someone saying they are coming to an event does not translate as them actually coming. I know this from experience of seeing people putting themselves down as attending a commercial events company multiple events, talking to that person at one of our events and finding they put themselves down as attending as "it's so trendy to be seen to go to them right now" and she didn't go bc she didn't have to, it was enough to be attending on facebook, wham, she looks cool and she didn't even go!

fact is, social network guarantees more awareness. Awareness again does not translate into ticket sales.


We do cultivate an audience with giveaways and crafting mailing list, this takes lots of time and is always a work in progress. just slamming people's names down onto mailing lists means nothing, as someone who has seen the failure of local protest groups who actively guilt trip people into signing a mailing list i can attest that those people ignore the events in the future.



more baiting.

Off to the ignore list with you!

thank you to all the other people who added to this conversation! xx

I most certainly was not being antagonistic - I am giving you the benefit of my experience some 30 years in total of organising all kinds of events plus 2 years of managing rock bands who are certainly not famous by any stretch of the imagination!

Obviously, you are the troll because you are choosing to ignore people and be rude to them because they are telling you things you don't want to hear.

There are many independent radio stations out there perhaps you could contact one or two of them to see if they will get behind your event - music events will sell especially if you get yourself (or perhaps someone less aggressive and more amenable than yourself - another charity person perhaps?) onto the radio for a chat.

I am giving you ideas that do not cost money or will cost very little money. Remember people like to know where their money is going which is why they tend to steer clear of the bigger charities because more money is spent on administration than actually goes to support the people that the charity was set up to help in the first place.

If you could drop me a PM with details of the charity music event that you are putting on and the charity that you work for, it would be appreciated:D

In the words of Duncan Bannatyne of Dragon's Den - I am out of this conversation getting blood into a stone is far easier than trying to advice an ignorant troll.

jamesperrett

Sounds a bit like an event local to me...

This particular event seemed to be run more as a vanity project for the organisers rather than as a sensible music event. The stage wouldn't have been out of place in a 20000 capacity festival but the rest struggled to cope with the few hundred people that turned up. Certainly the catering seemed to have run out of food by mid afternoon.

If you are struggling to attract people then you need to take a look at what other, more successful, events are doing. Possibly the best way to do this with unknown artists is to make the event free (or extremely cheap) to attend but have people going round with collecting buckets. Attracting sponsorship would also help to cover the upfront costs. Make it relevant to local people but also make sure that at least some of the artists are of a professional standard if you want people to come back in the future.

James.

andychelt

jamesperrett wrote: »

Sounds a bit like an event local to me...

Sounds a bit like a crap event to me if they've got to force tickets on people!! :rotfl: