4k in fees to train to be a Careers advisor

freebie_junkie

studentphil wrote:

I have toyed with the idea of doing a PGCE PCET, but the trouble is with a Philosophy degree you are not very employable in that sector, so I would have to do something like a management qualification first to give me that vocational teaching area. Whilst I do have a rather good knowledge of disability, it is probably not going to get me on the course.

im sure that there would be a suitable pathway under the generic PGCE, why not contact some uni's that do it and speak to their admissions tutors?

i was petrified that as im not doing 'pure' english (im doing BAHJ creative writing and writing for stage, screen and radio) that i wouldnt be able to do Adult Literacy but after speaking to the admissions tutor, it seems that its more important what youve done teaching-wise, i have done valuntary drama tutoring for 2 years and just started doign freelance drama, scriptwriting and songwriting teaching, all with 16-25 year olds. she was very interested that i bring my personal experiences (of menatl health problems, homelessness, dyslexia/dyspraxia, being an ethnic minority who dont traditionally do well in or participate in formal education), into teaching and helping people with similar problems. i think that your life skills will be judged as equally as your professional qualifications (as long as you get a 2:2).

studentphil

It will be too late now to apply for a PGCE in 2007, but that is probably not a bad thing as to take a year away from uni and to experience life a bit will do me no harm.

I noticed last september there was a few jobs about teaching a couple of hours of philosophy at Colleges round and about, whilst I know they would pay me as unqualified, maybe a year of that after my degree could just let me see if I like it.

freebie_junkie

studentphil wrote:

It will be too late now to apply for a PGCE in 2007, but that is probably not a bad thing as to take a year away from uni and to experience life a bit will do me no harm.

I noticed last september there was a few jobs about teaching a couple of hours of philosophy at Colleges round and about, whilst I know they would pay me as unqualified, maybe a year of that after my degree could just let me see if I like it.

its not to late for the post-compulsary PGCE applications, mine isnt due in till after christmas.

studentphil

freebie_junkie wrote:

its not to late for the post-compulsary PGCE applications, mine isnt due in till after christmas.

Thanks, there would be no harm in taking a year's break though I do not think.

andyrules

Phil, Don't just choose teaching because it's funded, unless you are going for KS3+ there are not many jobs anyway (depending on area). Also, it's not a job to do if you don't feel a strong attraction to it!

From what you've said, you seem to be keen on the CG thing - if it's what you really want then go for that. You spend a long time at work.

I think niceguy speaks a lot of sense, have you contacted your Connexions to see what is available and how you could maybe progress within it?

Good luck.

studentphil

andyrules wrote:

Phil, Don't just choose teaching because it's funded, unless you are going for KS3+ there are not many jobs anyway (depending on area). Also, it's not a job to do if you don't feel a strong attraction to it!

From what you've said, you seem to be keen on the CG thing - if it's what you really want then go for that. You spend a long time at work.

I think niceguy speaks a lot of sense, have you contacted your Connexions to see what is available and how you could maybe progress within it?

Good luck.

I am fairly sure that I want to do something to help disabled people in the education field. I could be happly committed to teaching or CG or something similar.

I have looked into it an Connexions seems a fairly growing area of employment. I could fall lucky and get employed as unqualified and then do the on the job training for it, but maybe that is not as valued as the PG course, so I am not right sure!

freebie_junkie

andyrules wrote:

Phil, Don't just choose teaching because it's funded, unless you are going for KS3+ there are not many jobs anyway (depending on area). Also, it's not a job to do if you don't feel a strong attraction to it!

From what you've said, you seem to be keen on the CG thing - if it's what you really want then go for that. You spend a long time at work.

I think niceguy speaks a lot of sense, have you contacted your Connexions to see what is available and how you could maybe progress within it?

Good luck.

i agree on the area thing, im lucky to live in an area which has two colleges which provide adult education classes, an adult education centre, two youth detantion centres which provide literacy classes, and several schemes like Reel MCR, streetwise2000 etc. whcih provide community-based drama and literacy teaching. i dont really want a job where i know that for the next 40 years ill be in on a monday at 9:00am until friday at 5:00pm, id rather do a variety of stuff

spinme

A friend of mine started the diploma in Careers Guidance in October this year at Reading Uni, she managed to get full sponsorship from the Connexions service I think.

lellie

studentphil wrote:

It will be too late now to apply for a PGCE in 2007, but that is probably not a bad thing as to take a year away from uni and to experience life a bit will do me no harm.

I noticed last september there was a few jobs about teaching a couple of hours of philosophy at Colleges round and about, whilst I know they would pay me as unqualified, maybe a year of that after my degree could just let me see if I like it.

No it's not! For IT I won't need to apply until after christmas - last year they didn't even fill the places by september for my course. It's only primary that needed to be in during september.

si1503

niceguyed wrote:

What's that proverb. "Walk a mile in someone's shoes before you judge whether or not they hurt"

Rewarding yes - Cushty no

What does that proverb have to do with anything I posted?

If you don't think being a careers advisor is a good job then fair enough. I'm only going by what I know. Personally I could think of a LOT worser jobs than being a careers advisor!