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MOT issues, incompetence and near fraud!

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  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    I go to a place that only does MOT's, so there's nothing in it for them if it needs repairs. And they don't "advise" me to use any "recommended" garages either, so I take it to the place that gives me the lowest quote.

    The only garage that touches my cars, (if I don't do it myself) is the same one that does the MOT. They're a good price, may not be the lowest price, but I know they'll do the work, and do it well.
  • KillerWatt
    KillerWatt Posts: 1,655 Forumite

    Got the car home, and stripped the relevant side of the suspension. I'm looking very hard at the spring, but can't see any kind of fracture. There's a little bit of the outer coating broken off in a few places, and a tiny bit of surface rust, but nothing that could be called a "fracture" or reduce the strength of the spring.
    Your qualifications are?
    When I took the N/S wheel off, I noticed a sizeable crack in the brake disc, which the tester had not spotted. Now, this would be difficult to spot on the ground, but with the car on a ramp, it SHOULD have been spotted!
    Can the ENTIRE brake disc (that's both sides, and inbetween the vents if they are vented) be seen with the roadwheel in place?
    The tester isn't allowed to remove anything from the vehicle under test, so it's quite likely that the fracture you found was obstructed by the roadwheel when the car was on the ramp.
    I'm not interested in liability, just safety, which is the point of the MOT after all.
    You have already said that you were "taught" to change suspension components in pairs (which is 100% correct), so I'm guessing you have at the very least a basic knowledge of how a motor vehicle works, and how to carry out basic servicing, inspection, and repairs.

    If that is the case and you are truly concerned about road safety, why didn't you give the vehicle a basic safety check/once over prior to driving it to the MOT station?
    Remember kids, it's the volts that jolt and the mills that kill.
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    KillerWatt wrote: »
    Your qualifications are?


    Can the ENTIRE brake disc (that's both sides, and inbetween the vents if they are vented) be seen with the roadwheel in place?
    The tester isn't allowed to remove anything from the vehicle under test, so it's quite likely that the fracture you found was obstructed by the roadwheel when the car was on the ramp.


    You have already said that you were "taught" to change suspension components in pairs (which is 100% correct), so I'm guessing you have at the very least a basic knowledge of how a motor vehicle works, and how to carry out basic servicing, inspection, and repairs.

    If that is the case and you are truly concerned about road safety, why didn't you give the vehicle a basic safety check/once over prior to driving it to the MOT station?

    Probably a bit more than "basic", if the op's changing springs on struts. :rotfl:
  • KillerWatt
    KillerWatt Posts: 1,655 Forumite
    mikey72 wrote: »
    Probably a bit more than "basic", if the op's changing springs on struts. :rotfl:
    Let's hope so, beacuse the described examination process to ascertain that both coil springs were still offering equal performance leaves a bit to be desired :rotfl:
    Remember kids, it's the volts that jolt and the mills that kill.
  • Hammyman
    Hammyman Posts: 9,913 Forumite
    Got the car home, and stripped the relevant side of the suspension. I'm looking very hard at the spring, but can't see any kind of fracture.
    On Mondeos, its common for them to crack or snap in the spring seat and you'd not notice during normal driving or until you took the weight off it.
    When I took the N/S wheel off, I noticed a sizeable crack in the brake disc, which the tester had not spotted. Now, this would be difficult to spot on the ground, but with the car on a ramp, it SHOULD have been spotted!

    ..unless it was in the 30% of the area of the disc covered by the caliper...
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    edited 26 March 2011 at 12:34AM
    KillerWatt wrote: »
    Let's hope so, beacuse the described examination process to ascertain that both coil springs were still offering equal performance leaves a bit to be desired :rotfl:

    Whereas the described examination process would spot a "fractured o/s/f coil spring" quite easily.

    edit :rotfl:
  • pendulum
    pendulum Posts: 2,302 Forumite
    maninthestreet, I asked them to show me the failed spring when they did the initial test, but the tester wouldn't, and then the manager didn't seem interested either.
    Should've told them you'd get VOSA to show you it then and asked for an Appeal Form which they have to give you, bet that would have changed their tune!
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    Hammyman wrote: »
    ..unless it was in the 30% of the area of the disc covered by the caliper...

    Oh dear.
    My MOT testers always turn the road wheel, probably for that very reason.
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