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Support for mortgage interest (SMI) extended AGAIN

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  • DervProf
    DervProf Posts: 4,035 Forumite
    Are the house price optimists not the ones who say people should take risks, instead of sitting on the sidelines while laughing at them for how much they spent in rent?

    Yet now, when people can't pay for their homes, who did jump in to home ownership, shouldn't have any risk, and the government should prop them up?

    Hypocritical to say the least.

    I was thinking that myself Graham. I think I alluded to it in an earlier post when I said that if the private property market is meant to be a "free" market, then there shouldn't really be a huge safety net, funded by the taxpayer, for those that wish to enter that market. If they want to protect themselves against loss of income, invest in some insurance.
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  • Orpheo
    Orpheo Posts: 1,058 Forumite
    Wouldnt we then have to pay their rent, which could, in all likelihood, be more expensive than paying their mortgage interest? Plus there is no end to paying rent via benefits, unlike mortgages.

    If we only pay the interest on mortgages then there's no end to that either.

    What planet are some of you people on, comrades?

    I'd rather save for my daughter's higher education than pay unemployed debtors' mortgage interest (or capital) past a very limited time.
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  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    Wouldnt we then have to pay their rent, which could, in all likelihood, be more expensive than paying their mortgage interest? Plus there is no end to paying rent via benefits, unlike mortgages.

    Yes there does seem to be an element of jealousy here, though how you can be jealous of someone who has lost their job is beyond me.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • Orpheo
    Orpheo Posts: 1,058 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    Yes there does seem to be an element of jealousy here, though how you can be jealous of someone who has lost their job is beyond me.

    You are, evidently, all out of anything useful to say then?
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  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Plus there is no end to paying rent via benefits, unlike mortgages.

    If you keep extending the period SMI runs for then there's no end to that either!
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    Orpheo wrote: »
    Define real need. How about facts, figures and reality instead of BS emotive phrases?


    I would support a variable system where just the interest on people's mortgages was paid off and it was limited to a period of 9 months to allow them to try to find a job. The SMI stops after 9 months and if they haven't found a job then they may lose their house if they cannot keep up repayments on the mortgage secured against it. Presumably they read their mortgage agreement before signing it?

    Real need is when their interest rate is higher than 3.7%. So after 9 months we allow eviction and pay their rent instead, mmmm.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    Orpheo wrote: »
    You are, evidently, all out of anything useful to say then?

    So if you are not jealous what are you? if the alternative treatment is paying the same amount (or more) in rent?
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • Orpheo
    Orpheo Posts: 1,058 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    So if you are not jealous what are you?

    In favour of something that is conveniently called a free market behaving like one.

    What is with the jealousy accusations? Let me guess. You have nothing with which to support a rational argument so you thought you'd try even more emotive words like 'jealousy'. I'd bet you do emotional blackmail too.

    What are you?
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  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    Orpheo wrote: »
    In favour of something that is conveniently called a free market behaving like one.

    What is with the jealousy accusations? Let me guess. You have nothing with which to support a rational argument so you thought you'd try even more emotive words like 'jealousy'. I'd bet you do emotional blackmail too.

    What are you?

    A person who doesn't like to to see families evicted from their houses, especially if it doesn't help to cut that deficit. What are you?
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    A person who doesn't like to to see families evicted from their houses, especially if it doesn't help to cut that deficit. What are you?

    A free market requires those that do not pay to be evicted, otherwise is ceases to function properly. Harsh but true.
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