Support for mortgage interest (SMI) extended AGAIN

ukcarper

"Under a standard interest rate of around 3.67%, around 50% of Support for Mortgage Interest customers would continue to have their eligible housing costs fully met by their benefit award."

This is actual sentence from dwp document posted earlier and it say 50% will have interest fully meet so 50% will only have there payments partly meet and not all of other 50% will get capital paid off.

geneer

julieq wrote: »

Graham, you just claimed you don't have to pay your mortgage because SMI exists. And you're wrong. So you're flouncing off complaining about being debated with on a debating forum.

Some people are just too delicate for this life

I fail to see why you want a cut off anyway unless you're also cutting off any other form of benefit. You haven't explained that one.

Nice body swerve Jules.
But you seem to have failed to addressed Grahams point.
Which really doesn't strike me as being in the spirit of the open "debate" you claim to hold so highly.

geneer

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Well I'm out guys, I'm sure you'll be glad to hear.

Can't be bothered with the incescent emotional lines.

We've had "you want families chucked onto the streets so you can get a cheap house"

We've had "you are filled with jealousy because they have something you don't have".

We've had "you want to see people denied NHS care simply because they own a house".

Now we have "You want to scrap the ENTIRE benefit system because you don't agree with me".

Its strange that this histrionic use of language should become so prevalent since 2008.

Now I'm not saying that its just another meme thoughtlessly encapsulated within a community prone to the thoughtless regurgitation of similar memes.

And I'm not saying its a transparent crutch adopted by an embittered group in order to make them feel better about their own demonstrable failure to understand market forces and predict likely outcomes.


All I'm saying is that this little satirical "trump card" was created in may 2008, yet still appears to be highly relevant today.

chucky

julieq wrote: »

Can we qualify this please by saying that on average half of the recipients are getting some capital repayed, of whom most are getting very little capital repayed.

errrr no Julie, the chewbacca debating tactic has now moved from the asset/mortgage is paid off by SMI.

well that's according to the usual suspects...

Graham_Devon wrote: »

The difference between paying peoples rent via benefits, or council houses, is that the person does not walk away with a very valuable asset at the end of it.

julieq wrote: »

Of course if you're hoping for a flood of houses onto the market so you can get a cheap house then it'll be a disappointment to you that there's a benefit that allows people to stay in their homes when made unemployed. But apart from that vested interest it's a reasonable system.

it's disappointing to see people wanting families to be kicked out of their homes - schadenfreude isn't a very nice character trait

wotsthat

geneer wrote: »

Its strange that this histrionic use of language should become so prevalent since 2008.

Now I'm not saying that its just another meme thoughtlessly encapsulated within a community prone to the thoughtless regurgitation of similar memes.

This use of language arises when when a poster will argue at a tangent whilst avoiding the wider matter at hand i.e. the point. This leads to other posters trying to work out what point, if any, they are trying to make which inevitably this leads to questions like 'do you mean this?' or 'do you mean that?'

The usual response to these questions is faux outrage that words are being put into their mouths whilst making an effort not to offer an opinion on the subject of the thread.

Days later the said poster will appear and eventually offer a middle of the road opinion on the subject at hand which makes you wonder why they'll argue to the nth degree of inconsequence when they are pretty much in agreement with the majority of posters in the first place.

Graham_Devon

Couldn't care less about the rest of you scoffing. You are in good company with the ghouls thing. It's expected that the only answer you will come up with the everything you don't like is "you want people chucked out of your homes" and then complain about lack of argument.

But a shame to see generali thanking the bile. Oh well.

abaxas

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Couldn't care less about the rest of you scoffing. You are in good company with the ghouls thing. It's expected that the only answer you will come up with the everything you don't like is "you want people chucked out of your homes" and then complain about lack of argument.

But a shame to see generali thanking the bile. Oh well.

Give it up.

You cant argue with the selfish.

chucky

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Couldn't care less about the rest of you scoffing. You are in good company with the ghouls thing. It's expected that the only answer you will come up with the everything you don't like is "you want people chucked out of your homes" and then complain about lack of argument.

if everyone is telling you that you don't understand and can't grasp stuff it must be the case that you don't understand and you're not getting the point.

i hope that is clear.

Percy1983

chucky wrote: »

it's disappointing to see people wanting families to be kicked out of their homes - schadenfreude isn't a very nice character trait

it's disappointing to see people wanting families to be priced out of homes while those who can't afford their homes get to stay in them indefinitely.

wotsthat

Percy1983 wrote: »

it's disappointing to see people wanting families to be priced out of homes while those who can't afford their homes get to stay in them indefinitely.

This came to mind..

Hawkins: The pellet with the poison is in the vessel with the pestle. The chalice from the palace has the brew that is true! Right?

Griselda: Right. But there’s been a change: They broke the chalice from the palace!

Hawkins: They *broke* the chalice from the palace?

Griselda: And replaced it with a flagon.

Hawkins: A flagon…?

Griselda: With the figure of a dragon.

Hawkins: Flagon with a dragon.

Griselda: Right.

Hawkins: Did you put the pellet with the poison in the vessel with the pestle?

Griselda: No! The pellet with the poison’s in the flagon with the dragon! The vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true!

Hawkins: The pellet with the poison’s in the flagon with the dragon; the vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true.