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My budget wish - less FSA regulation

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  • DervProf
    DervProf Posts: 4,035 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    It was "creative" accounting/lending in the USA that apparently caused the whole problem (and banks a regulators over here tending to look the other way to save rocking the boat). Despite what JulieQ and Conrad think, I hope they do tend to err on the side of caution this time.

    Me too. In the short term, yes, it will be difficult for the property market. In the long term, it will be a fairer system for the average hard working family to buy a home to live in.
    30 Year Challenge : To be 30 years older. Equity : Don't know, don't care much. Savings : That's asking for ridicule.
  • Wookster
    Wookster Posts: 3,795 Forumite
    Did you not learn how to construct sentences?

    As I said earlier, stop trying making yourself look like a fool.

    Lol

    Graham, chuckles doesn't have to try to make himself look a fool. it comes naturally.
  • DervProf
    DervProf Posts: 4,035 Forumite
    And another thing.

    Proof of income = data from the IR (except in special circumstances that I can't think of - maybe overseas workers or something).

    Anyway, proof of income = data from the revenue. This does 3 things.

    1. Makes the process more fraud proof.

    2. Encourages people to pay their taxes.

    3. Potentially cuts down paperwork.

    :T
    30 Year Challenge : To be 30 years older. Equity : Don't know, don't care much. Savings : That's asking for ridicule.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    DervProf wrote: »
    And another thing.

    Proof of income = data from the IR (except in special circumstances that I can't think of - maybe overseas workers or something).

    Anyway, proof of income = data from the revenue. This does 3 things.

    1. Makes the process more fraud proof.

    2. Encourages people to pay their taxes.

    3. Potentially cuts down paperwork.

    :T

    It would put Conrad out of business.

    All these cab drivers on 20k PA getting £250k mortgages.
  • DervProf
    DervProf Posts: 4,035 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    It would put Conrad out of business.

    All these cab drivers on 20k PA getting £250k mortgages.

    A small price to pay for stability in the property market.
    30 Year Challenge : To be 30 years older. Equity : Don't know, don't care much. Savings : That's asking for ridicule.
  • Wookster
    Wookster Posts: 3,795 Forumite
    julieq wrote: »
    Arguably the Tsunami was more predictible and that risk should have been mitigated incidentally, I think that will come out in the enquiry.

    Not true. Lots of folk predicted the financial crisis. It just so happens that most people thought house prices would rise forever, the endless supply of debt would never run dry and parceling up NINJA loans as AAA rated instruments and selling them to each other would make the world richer.
  • DervProf
    DervProf Posts: 4,035 Forumite
    Wookster wrote: »
    Not true. Lots of folk predicted the financial crisis. It just so happens that most people thought house prices would rise forever, the endless supply of debt would never run dry and parceling up NINJA loans as AAA rated instruments and selling them to each other would make the world richer.

    Yes, just like a tsunami, a financial crisis will happen from time to time. And just like a tsynami, there are things that can be done to minimize the damage from such an event. It is arguable, and I`ll argue it right now, that we stand a much better chance of not only preparing ourselves better for a financial crisis, but also preventing a financial crisis. I doubt we will ever prevent tsunamis though.
    30 Year Challenge : To be 30 years older. Equity : Don't know, don't care much. Savings : That's asking for ridicule.
  • shortchanged_2
    shortchanged_2 Posts: 5,546 Forumite
    julieq wrote: »
    You'd have to show that there was widespread deception, and there is simply no evidence of that. Most people don't lie about their income on a mortgage application because (a) they have no reason to, and (b) because they assume it will be checked.

    If a lender doesn't care one way or another what true income is it's not a factor in gaining a pecuniary advantage, is it?

    Where's your proof julieq that it hasn't been widespread over the past few years?
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Why we have to spend time explaining this kind of stuff I do not know.
    it's because you're not very bright...

    how about when you thought that 10% HPI a year was called stagnation...

    how about when you thought that CGT was paid on the difference between the mortgage and the value of the property...

    and how about you thinking Amsterdam was a different country to the Netherlands...

    it's not everyone else's fault you're slow...
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    chucky wrote: »
    it's because you're not very bright...

    how about when you thought that 10% HPI a year was called stagnation...

    how about when you thought that CGT was paid on the difference between the mortgage and the value of the property...

    and how about you thinking Amsterdam was a different country to the Netherlands...

    it's not everyone else's fault you're slow...

    So, it's myself thats not very bright, therefore, I have to explain things to people?

    What?

    What on earth is going on in your head. Even your insults don't make any sense.

    Secondly, I'll ignore your more obvious attempts to get yourself some attention from now. You don't even make any sense with your attempted insults half the time.

    This board was actually running pretty well over the last couple of months. No arguments, no childish insults, and no name calling on every thread you visit. Please. Don't come back and drag it all the way back down again.
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