Japan crisis - the worlds economic outlook?

1984ReturnsForReal_2

Poshbird wrote: »

How does it compare with Chernobyl?

Chernobyl was one incident that burnt & chucked a load of bad stuff into the atmosphere.


This is 3+ incidents at least 2 of which briefly chucked stuff into the atmosphere & luckily most went over the sea. However, contrary to what some would have you believe, it is not over yet.

vivatifosi

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

However, contrary to what some would have you believe, it is not over yet.

I don't think most people think its over yet. Even today TEPCO is dealing with a potential waste water leak from reactor 3 and continues to pump nitrogen into the buildings to reduce risk of further explosion (which it has been doing since April) - which sounds nothing like a completed project.

Incidentally, a team from the IAEA is visiting Fukushima on Friday and they will be reporting their findings in June, so that will be worth looking out for.

Poshbird

vivatifosi wrote: »

I don't think most people think its over yet. Even today TEPCO is dealing with a potential waste water leak from reactor 3 and continues to pump nitrogen into the buildings to reduce risk of further explosion (which it has been doing since April) - which sounds nothing like a completed project.

Incidentally, a team from the IAEA is visiting Fukushima on Friday and they will be reporting their findings in June, so that will be worth looking out for.

Like they are going to report the truth to the public!

michaels

According to your earlier link reactor 1 had gone re-critical and melted through the reactor vessel and would soon go through the containment until it reached ground water when there would be a huge explosion - I'm surprised the IAEA are visiting...

Poshbird wrote: »

Like they are going to report the truth to the public!

1984ReturnsForReal_2

michaels wrote: »

According to your earlier link reactor 1 had gone re-critical and melted through the reactor vessel and would soon go through the containment until it reached ground water when there would be a huge explosion - I'm surprised the IAEA are visiting...

They are wearing bigger boots.

Bangerchick

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

They are wearing bigger boots.

And lead undercrackers most probably

Poshbird

michaels wrote: »

According to your earlier link reactor 1 had gone re-critical and melted through the reactor vessel and would soon go through the containment until it reached ground water when there would be a huge explosion - I'm surprised the IAEA are visiting...

Er who when what? How could that cause another explosion? Who said that not me?

Bangerchick wrote: »

And lead undercrackers most probably

You need think lead undercrackers to protect against that many radioactive particles.

vivatifosi

Poshbird wrote: »

Like they are going to report the truth to the public!

They are reporting to other nuclear scientists from around the world on their findings. They have to do this because it is essential for learning. The big events (Chernobyl, 3 Mile Island, etc) help them all learn about what has happened so they can build more safety features in for the future. This is good scientific practice and its essential that they do this so that other countries with nuclear reactors in earthquake and/or tsunami zones can make better preparations with their own facilities. Even if it takes place behind closed doors - which I can't see a reason for that happening - it will still get covered in scientific papers.

Poshbird

vivatifosi wrote: »

They are reporting to other nuclear scientists from around the world on their findings. They have to do this because it is essential for learning. The big events (Chernobyl, 3 Mile Island, etc) help them all learn about what has happened so they can build more safety features in for the future. This is good scientific practice and its essential that they do this so that other countries with nuclear reactors in earthquake and/or tsunami zones can make better preparations with their own facilities. Even if it takes place behind closed doors - which I can't see a reason for that happening - it will still get covered in scientific papers.

But will the general public find out the truth? That is what I mean.

I understand why governments lie. Its a bit like parents do not tell their children everything in one go, it is wise to release information in the correct amount and time.

Like when many were saying there has been meltdown at a few of the reactors but the Government spokesperson was denying it. Now it turns out they were lying all along.

That is why I am worried when the official story they are releasing to the press at the moment is looking so bad, and this is the sugar coated version!!!!!!!!!!

vivatifosi

Poshbird wrote: »

That is why I am worried when the official story they are releasing to the press at the moment is looking so bad, and this is the sugar coated version!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, I can understand that. As I've mentioned before, one of my rels worked on the Chernobyl aftermath project. The thing is, he knew stuff before it was on the news and I know that happens, but it had more to do with the fact that the science had to be coroborated and confirmed, then collated with other results than a cover up per se (at least in this country) and that takes time. Also, it was the busiest time of his life, he was all over the shop visiting different sites. So you can just imagine if you were working on Fukushima, by the time you've got everyone together got their results (some of which will by necessity be field results out on the perimeter of the zone), there's a chance that some of them will have got out on to the internet and then that looks like a cover up, whereas it just takes time for these things to sort themselves out.

Scientists are b*ggers for making sure they know what they think they know before telling you about it, but I still don't think they are covering up per se*. Having said that, I still don't think they know everything that they need to know about Fukushima and that iterative process will continue for a long time yet.

* Scientists as a group. You may well get an individual covering stuff up because it is human nature, especially if they stuffed up.