Working for two employers

stphnstevey

It is my opinion I can do it evenings and wkds.

My client is very likely to think differently and feel it would impact on their work.

I'm not disreagrding your point - tell client working wkds on second job, but I don't think my client would want this

getmore4less

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

So, you aren't actually doing it at the weekends then? So you are lying about it being weekend and evening work?

Interesting....

that was obvious in the first post,

catch up at the back

I think the key is down to the type of "contractor"

Could tell the first you need a reference to get set up other work up to avoid HMRC investigations.

with the current setup it looks like you are an employee

stphnstevey

getmore4less wrote: »

that was obvious in the first post,

catch up at the back

I think the key is down to the type of "contractor"

Could tell the first you need a reference to get set up other work up to avoid HMRC investigations.

with the current setup it looks like you are an employee

I would be doing it wkds and evenings - I would need to to be able to squeeze 10 days worth of work into 7 days. But I can see why you might think I would try to squeeze this into 5 days.

I am setup as a Ltd contractor - so your suggestion of avoiding HMRC investigation under IR35 is an option, but again I fall into the trap of the client believing (I didn't even convince you guys) that it woulldn't impact on their work and that I would be doing it wkds and evenings and still being as productive for them

getmore4less

stphnstevey wrote: »

I would be doing it wkds and evenings - I would need to to be able to squeeze 10 days worth of work into 7 days. But I can see why you might think I would try to squeeze this into 5 days.

I am setup as a Ltd contractor - so your suggestion of avoiding HMRC investigation under IR35 is an option, but again I fall into the trap of the client believing (I didn't even convince you guys) that it woulldn't impact on their work and that I would be doing it wkds and evenings and still being as productive for them

So as Ltd you are entitled to have anyone do the work either in your company or subcontracted.

Rather than another full time what about part time.

Depends if there is demand for the skill on one off/part time/short term basis.

Sambucus_Nigra

getmore4less wrote: »

that was obvious in the first post,

catch up at the back

I think the key is down to the type of "contractor"

Could tell the first you need a reference to get set up other work up to avoid HMRC investigations.

with the current setup it looks like you are an employee

I give up......it was a ruse to get out of the OP the fact that he was doing it at weekend...oh forget it! You can't help some people.

KiKi

stphnstevey wrote: »

My client pays an hourly rate. I am very experienced in what I do (having done it for the last 10yrs) and get things done in half the time it takes the less experienced people who also work for them at the same rate.

However if they knew things weren't taking as long, they would give me more work to compensate, but not increase my fee. My role is not very well defined and additional projects is the norm.

I think what you're saying is that you are paid xx amount for Monday. However, you get Monday's work done in half the time because you're very experienced and so it takes you less time to get through the work. But instead of only charging for half the time, you get paid for the whole of Monday. And you don't want your employer to know this because they'd want you to do more work - which seems fair enough to me as they're paying you by the hour!!

And that's why you should charge a rate for the whole job and not an hourly rate. If you are charging an hourly rate then really you should only charge for hours worked - to charge for 8 hours and only do 4 isn't fair. You might be quicker and better than others, but you could charge a higher rate, or a total amount instead. No wonder you don't want them to know you can do another full time job in the time you're doing a full time job for them!!

Sorry if I'm way off the mark here, but that's exactly what you're implying here and in other posts.

KiKi

stphnstevey

KiKi wrote: »

I think what you're saying is that you are paid xx amount for Monday. However, you get Monday's work done in half the time because you're very experienced and so it takes you less time to get through the work. But instead of only charging for half the time, you get paid for the whole of Monday. And you don't want your employer to know this because they'd want you to do more work - which seems fair enough to me as they're paying you by the hour!!

Yes, you have hit the nail on the head - sorry to others if this was not clear from the outset

RexBanner

stphnstevey wrote: »

The work can be done on the wkds and evenings, its just traditionally a 9-5 Mon-Fri role. So in answer to your question (I am glad it was a question rather than a statement, as I could have taekn offence at being called a liar), I wasn't lying in the slightest.

Considering the level of navel gazing you've indulged in with this thread, I'm genuinely impressed that you can get through your work in half the expected time. I'm guessing that contracting is a fairly new experience for you?